Is it "Christian" to Attack other Faiths?

[Serapha]

I do agree that this fact is often seen as license to mock or ridicule them, but most of us end up defending our beliefs on CF and sometimes that is hard hitting .

no more oops...



~serapha~

 

[rnmomof7]

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~serapha~

Thanks for your opps
It made me reread that sentence and make a pledge never to hit post without proof reading

I left half of my thought in my head and never typed it in

 

[Rescued One]

Here on CF, what is permitted and encouraged is the bashing and attacking of the Mormon Christians.

You couldn't be more wrong. I have nothing against Mormons. They are following a false religion and I do care about that. A real Christian would show a friend the way to God instead of leading them down a path of danger. It's okay to warn people about taking the wrong path. IMO, it's the loving thing to do.

 

[calgal]

So Serapha:

How DO you want to see the Mormons approached? I find the idea of a friendly guide to the gates of hell to be a really horrid idea and would prefer to not have to deal with cries of "Persecuuuution" every time that a point is disagreed with. But then again, I spent time wearing magic undies and answering to the false name Naomi so my perspective is a bit different.

 

[AMMON]

How DO you want to see the Mormons approached?

With the realization on your parts that we are Christians, that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior and the ONLY way to the Father, and that, therefore, according to your beliefs, we are saved.

 

[Rescued One]

With the realization on your parts that we are Christians, that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior and the ONLY way to the Father, and that, therefore, according to your beliefs, we are saved.

What makes you think you have eternal life?

 

[AMMON]

What makes you think you have eternal life?

According to your beliefs, when one accepts Jesus Christ as his or her personal Savior, accepts the fact that only through Him can we return to the Father, and accepts that Jesus Christ, the Divine Son of God, paid the price for one's sin, one is saved. I believe all of that. Therefore, according to your beliefs, I am saved. We want you to acknowledge that. In fact, if you all did so, I would go away and stop bugging you.

 

[Rescued One]

According to your beliefs, when one accepts Jesus Christ as his or her personal Savior, accepts the fact that only through Him can we return to the Father, and accepts that Jesus Christ, the Divine Son of God, paid the price for one's sin, one is saved. I believe all of that. Therefore, according to your beliefs, I am saved. We want you to acknowledge that. In fact, if you all did so, I would go away and stop bugging you.

You aren't bugging me. You sound like a Christian. If you are a Christian, why have you been pretending to be a LDS? Why do you make covenants in the LDS temple? Why do you wear temple garments?

 

[AMMON]

You aren't bugging me. You sound like a Christian. If you are a Christian, why have you been pretending to be a LDS? Why do you make covenants in the LDS temple? Why do you wear temple garments?

Let us assume, arguendo, that all that Temple stuff is just incorrect. I've still accepted Jesus as my Savior. Won't He be merciful upon me for doing things that, according to orthodox Christian belief, mean, essentially, nothing? In other words, where I have accepted Christ, and am saved, participating in these other activities can't hurt. Can it? Jesus is, after all, merciful and full of grace.

 

[Rescued One]

Let us assume, arguendo, that all that Temple stuff is just incorrect. I've still accepted Jesus as my Savior. Won't He be merciful upon me for doing things that, according to orthodox Christian belief, mean, essentially, nothing? In other words, where I have accepted Christ, and am saved, participating in these other activities can't hurt. Can it? Jesus is, after all, merciful and full of grace.

First, tell me why you participate in temple ordinances. You could spend that time serving God instead. What is the purpose of the secret handshakes, secret names, washings, annointings?

 

[calgal]

With the realization on your parts that we are Christians, that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior and the ONLY way to the Father, and that, therefore, according to your beliefs, we are saved.

Who is Jesus to you? Is He a separate and Distinct God named Jehovah?

 

[AMMON]

First, tell me why you participate in temple ordinances. You could spend that time serving God instead. What is the purpose of the secret handshakes, secret names, washings, annointings?

I go to the Temple to improve my relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ. The Temple is a quiet place, without Wordly distractions, where I can focus on things spiritual. I go to the mountains for the same purposes. As to the ordinances in the Temple, we believe that they are an outward expression of our acceptance of Jesus Christ as our Savior; they are also expressions in which we make promises to obey His law and learn more about Him. These promises help us follow His path for they impress upon us the Sacredness of Him and His Word. The ordinances all have a spiritual purpose, at least they do to me, and each one helps me focus on the Savior.

 

[gort]

Let us assume, arguendo, that all that Temple stuff is just incorrect. I've still accepted Jesus as my Savior. Won't He be merciful upon me for doing things that, according to orthodox Christian belief, mean, essentially, nothing? In other words, where I have accepted Christ, and am saved, participating in these other activities can't hurt. Can it? Jesus is, after all, merciful and full of grace.

What about your "one true church"?

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[happyinhisgrace]

With the realization on your parts that we are Christians, that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior and the ONLY way to the Father, and that, therefore, according to your beliefs, we are saved.

So you want us to deny what the Bible teaches and turn a blind eye to the truth of God? Sorry, no can do.

Grace

 

[AMMON]

Who is Jesus to you? Is He a separate and Distinct God named Jehovah?

I believe the God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, have some sort of an unexplainable spiritual link, which they share with the Holy Spirit, that binds the three together as one unit with three separate parts thereto. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are separate, but they are also one. They form the Godhead, and have a bind between them stronger than that of a husband and wife. Perhaps they actually think the same thoughts as one another; I don't know. I do know that Jesus Christ is the Saving Power within the single unit of the Godhead. He is my personal Savior. I pray to God the Father in His name, for He is my advocate to the Father. He is my Savior.

 

[AMMON]

What about your "one true church"?

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We're talking about you accepting me as a Christian, not me accepting you as a Mormon. Aren't we? I believe, with all my heart, that you are a Christian. All I ask is that you believe the same of me. Christ is merciful. Even if I have His metaphysical form wrong, do you not believe He is full of grace and will accept this human fault? Do we not all have human faults? Is His grace not sufficient to encompass those faults?

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Let us assume, arguendo, that all that Temple stuff is just incorrect. I've still accepted Jesus as my Savior. Won't He be merciful upon me for doing things that, according to orthodox Christian belief, mean, essentially, nothing? In other words, where I have accepted Christ, and am saved, participating in these other activities can't hurt. Can it? Jesus is, after all, merciful and full of grace.

LDS temple rituals don't mean "nothing", they mean that you are choosing to follow rituals that are not biblical and therefore not of God. If you are taking part in a "religious" ritual that is not of God, then it is of Satan and that is a very dangerous thing to be a part of.

Grace

 

[AMMON]

LDS temple rituals don't mean "nothing", they mean that you are choosing to follow rituals that are not biblical and therefore not of God. If you are taking part in a "religious" ritual that is not of God, then it is of Satan and that is a very dangerous thing to be a part of.

Grace

But do you limit the power of Christ's sacrifice to account for such a "mistake?" Do we not all commit mistakes? Is Christ not able to forgive? I believe that He paid for my sins, that He is my Savior. Will He not have mercy on my soul if my human mind makes mistakes?

 

[Serapha]

So Serapha:

How DO you want to see the Mormons approached? I find the idea of a friendly guide to the gates of hell to be a really horrid idea and would prefer to not have to deal with cries of "Persecuuuution" every time that a point is disagreed with. But then again, I spent time wearing magic undies and answering to the false name Naomi so my perspective is a bit different.

Hi there!



Since you made it personal....

I don't agree with the bom, the teachings of prophets, nor the doctrines of the CoJCoLDS's. I don't agree with them based upon archaeological evidences (the physical) or on historical evidences (the recorded word).

But more importantly, I don't believe that killing the messenger kills the message. What I see on Christian forums is people who take target practice out on the JW's and the Mormons, thinking that if they hit an unprotected point, that the member will be converted and saved; therefore, the continual onslaught on personal insults against the religion and the people who have that faith.


Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
"That" is what I believe to be the better way.

Come, let us reason together.


and just tell me.


WWJD?


mock a religion or people?


or reason together with them?


~serapha~

 

[Rescued One]

I go to the Temple to improve my relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ. The Temple is a quiet place, without Wordly distractions, where I can focus on things spiritual. I go to the mountains for the same purposes. As to the ordinances in the Temple, we believe that they are an outward expression of our acceptance of Jesus Christ as our Savior; they are also expressions in which we make promises to obey His law and learn more about Him. These promises help us follow His path for they impress upon us the Sacredness of Him and His Word. The ordinances all have a spiritual purpose, at least they do to me, and each one helps me focus on the Savior.

We already know what goes on in the temple. You do not need a building made with hands to focus on God and things spiritual. Don't you do that in your ward buildings?

Do you think Christians don't focus on things spiritual? Do you think Christians aren't able to convey their acceptance of Christ as Savior? Do you think Christians don't regard Jesus as sacred and His word as truth? Your temple ordinances only serve to make you think you earned something more special than the Chrsitians who are genuine born-again believers. Should one Christian be regarded as more worthy than another? Your bishops and stake presidents think so.