Those are all activities God has declared to be within His purview alone, as far as Christians are concerned.
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This is a good response to what might be your particular viewpoint, but it appears this thread devolved fairly quickly into discussing the importance of you forgiving others, rather than centering specifically on the question of should the forgiven need to feel guilty, make restitutions, have obligations to the victim, etc.
Those are all activities God has declared to be within His purview alone, as far as Christians are concerned.
Abusers would just love an excuse to obligate us to forgive them... It's the Abuser’s Dream Gig- to be able to commit one evil deed after another with impunity, and then pervert the Word of God by claiming that others have to repeatedly and unconditionally forgive her... BE NOT DECEIVED; GOD IS NOT MOCKED: FOR WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWETH, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP….Galatians 6:7.
...judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
Somebody with that much anger that they cannot forgive should not be looking to theology to fix their problems, they need to seek a therapist. Jesus own words are quite clear on the duty to forgive. I don't expect people to be able to forgive (as I am Augustinian on the subject of sin), but I do expect people to not celebrate holding grudges, as it is sub-Christian behavior.
...to not celebrate holding grudges, as it is sub-Christian behavior
Those are 2 completely separate issues. Forgiveness is for the "victim" to be free and able to move on into healing. It has nothing to do with the "perpetrator."it appears this thread devolved fairly quickly into discussing the importance of you forgiving others, rather than centering specifically on the question of should the forgiven need to feel guilty, make restitutions, have obligations to the victim, etc.
Those are 2 completely separate issues. Forgiveness is for the "victim" to be free and able to move on into healing. It has nothing to do with the "perpetrator."
For that person (the perpetrator) to be free from what they have done, they need to repent before God, face the legal system honestly and openly, and offer restitution to the victim. (if possible)
Those are separate issues.
Somebody with that much anger that they cannot forgive should not be looking to theology to fix their problems, they need to seek a therapist.
Indeed. In fact, I question whether someone who has been hurt and hanging onto that for years has really had much time spent in the manifest presence of Lord.an encounter with the living God - will be effective in dealing with issues where therapy didn't even begin to touch the sides.
I get that. But I am not sure you get what I was saying.Not fair, Dave. Some wounds run deep and take time to heal; indeed some may never in this life. Blaming the person so wounded is not okay.
Yes - I understand that.What I'm saying is that the process of healing may not be straightforward; it may be like the bone which needs to be broken again before it can be reset; it may leave us, in the short-to-medium term, worse off than before the process began.
I am sorry it came across that way. It was not my intent to be harsh.And to say to someone who may be in the middle of that kind of journey, someone who is struggling and suffering, that they're not blessed enough because they don't spend enough time with God - which is how your last couple of posts came across - is downright cruel.
Because in that other thread, the OP was truly wounded from his wife's behavior. So I was encouraging him to seek God and be what his wife needed from him DESPITE how he felt about it. God's grace is there if we tap into it.I don't see how that's relevant to this discussion...?
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