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KenE
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CREATION started with God. He made man in His Own image.
God did not 'start out' as a single-celled amoeba, which finally crawled onto land and then somehow changed from an ape to a man. How simple can it be to take God at His Word?
How does an evolutionary process process glorify God?
God did not 'start out' as a single-celled amoeba, which finally crawled onto land and then somehow changed from an ape to a man. How simple can it be to take God at His Word?
How does an evolutionary process process glorify God?
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KenE
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OK - time to 'fess up...
At one point in my life I 'bought into' the 'millions of years' scenario, because it didn't seem to change the way I believed in God.
However, after 36 years of watching evolutionists getting caught out in one hoax after the other, and quoting each new fossilized 'find' as being the 'final proof of evolution' (and then quoting that the previous evidence was insubstantial) and watching scientists who have turned to the Bible for the answers their research just cannot give them, and observing the evidence of a universal flood which debunks a great portion of the 'millions of years' theory and seeing things like a fossilized human foot in a boot and trees that were found inside layers of soil that evolutionists say represent billions of years and the FACT that not ONE SINGLE scientific experiment EXISTS which substantiates the evolutionary process (i.e. increase of information from one generation of a species to the next finally clinches it for me.
OK - so now you prove evolution to be scientifically tenable, if you can.
At one point in my life I 'bought into' the 'millions of years' scenario, because it didn't seem to change the way I believed in God.
However, after 36 years of watching evolutionists getting caught out in one hoax after the other, and quoting each new fossilized 'find' as being the 'final proof of evolution' (and then quoting that the previous evidence was insubstantial) and watching scientists who have turned to the Bible for the answers their research just cannot give them, and observing the evidence of a universal flood which debunks a great portion of the 'millions of years' theory and seeing things like a fossilized human foot in a boot and trees that were found inside layers of soil that evolutionists say represent billions of years and the FACT that not ONE SINGLE scientific experiment EXISTS which substantiates the evolutionary process (i.e. increase of information from one generation of a species to the next finally clinches it for me.
OK - so now you prove evolution to be scientifically tenable, if you can.
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Nabobalis
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I doubt there is much soil (if any) that is billions of years old. I mean most oceanic crust is 700 Myrs old at most.
So you might want to find a better source of information.
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KenE
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* sigh * There truly are none so blind as those who will not see
Nabobalis - I have nothing further to say. One day, if we meet in eternity, we can look back on this thread and have a good laugh. In the meantime I'll just chuckle quietly to myself.
Off to a more serious Christian discussion. Bi 4 now
Nabobalis - I have nothing further to say. One day, if we meet in eternity, we can look back on this thread and have a good laugh. In the meantime I'll just chuckle quietly to myself.
Off to a more serious Christian discussion. Bi 4 now
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Assyrian
Basically pulling an Obama (Thanks Calminian!)
Children are really good at working out probability and statistics?
I call it misunderstanding God's word, rather than believing it. You have to understand God's word before you believe it, otherwise you are mainly just believing you own opinions.
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Nabobalis
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Maybe we will. But even then gravity will still be a theory and there wont be soil on this planet that is billions of years old (unless humans preserve a sample).
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artybloke
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Considering that I haven't seen anyone quoting from God - just a human book called the Bible, inspired by their religious experiences no doubt, but still human - I'll go with finding God's signature in the natural world, in the rocks and stones and fossils and chemical processes of the universe that God creates using evolution, using deep time, using the creative processes of stars etc etc etc...
Either Genesis is symbolic or it's false.
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John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" 
If the Bible is just a book written by mere men...how can you put any trust in the fact that Christ died for your sins? Maybe they got that bit wrong too...or perhaps that was symbolic?
Not having a pop...I just wondered how you interpreted Genesis to be symbolic perhaps?...and the gospels to be literal? Or do you think they are symbolic aswell?
If the Bible is just a book written by mere men...how can you put any trust in the fact that Christ died for your sins? Maybe they got that bit wrong too...or perhaps that was symbolic?
Not having a pop...I just wondered how you interpreted Genesis to be symbolic perhaps?...and the gospels to be literal? Or do you think they are symbolic aswell?
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John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
If the Bible is just a book written by mere men...how can you put any trust in the fact that Christ died for your sins? Maybe they got that bit wrong too...or perhaps that was symbolic?
Not having a pop...I just wondered how you interpreted Genesis to be symbolic perhaps?...and the gospels to be literal? Or do you think they are symbolic aswell?
Written by men, yes; but who was it's author?
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