Is Creationism a Fairy Tale?

[Wiccan_Child]

You're related to dirty chimps -- live with it.

Even worse - he's part of H. sapiens!

 

[Sasquatchit]

That, madam, is your opinion. I much preferred Harry Potter and its emphasis on love and friendship, than the Bible and its emphasis on infanticide and fearful worship.

Where do u get that infanticide was a part of worship? Verse please?

Allegedly. The stories are routinely factually false (contrary to Genesis, plants came after the Sun; contrary to Exodus, the Jews were never slaves to Egypt), so you'll forgive me if I don't trust Revelations.

Where do u get that they r false??

Where, though? What, specifically, can you point to as an undeniable fingerprint of God (the God of the Bible, no less)?

Of course, there is only one true God who made all things. All of life/creation has His fingerprint.

And I'll take the theories of common ancestry and the Big Bang over Biblical creation myths any day, thank you. There's just something about evidence and logic that just appeals to me.

Ok, well good luck in the end. Common ancestry can only go so far.

Do u know of the saying, "there r no atheists in hell."? Why u might ask? Because all people will meet God in the end.

 

[bhsmte]

Who says the USA is a Christian nation? Why isn't a Muslim, or Buddhist, nation? What does "Christian nation" mean? Is the UK a Christian nation? Or Russia? Or Israel? Or Kenya?

IMO, what the USA really is, is a nation where many people "claim" to be christian and a lot of those who claim to be, are doing so because of social pressure. In reality, the true number of "believing" christians in the USA, is a much smaller number than advertised.

We will eventually move towards other advanced nations like those in europe, who have a much lower number who identify as christians, because there does not exist a social stigma, to identify as a non-believer.

 

[lasthero]

Ok, well good luck in the end. Common ancestry can only go so far.

Do u know of the saying, "there r no atheists in hell."? Why u might ask? Because all people will meet God in the end.

What's with the smily face? Doesn't the prospect of people burning for all eternity make you just a little sad?

 

[nuttypiglet]

Even quotes from the Koran on a courthouse lawn get them going so it's not just the Bible.
What is the matter with these people? why do they want to keep sticking to the constitution?
Don't they realise that if you're religious you can go against the constitution? or at least think you can.

But America was founded on Christianity. Not any more, now it's destroying religion. This is why America is labelled the new Babylon in scripture and will be heavily punished.

 

[nuttypiglet]

What's with the smily face? Doesn't the prospect of people burning for all eternity make you just a little sad?

Yet another one who claims to understand where creationists are coming from because they can't even understand the Bible lol. Burn for an eternity? lmao

 

[lasthero]

But America was founded on Christianity.

No, it wasn't.havin

Not any more, now it's destroying religion.

First off, let's be frank - you don't care about what happens to Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, et cetera. You care about your particular religion, Christianity. That's what you mean, so say what you mean, and stop acting like there's some general religious war going on.

Second, religion is just fine and in no danger of destruction. When churches are no longer offered tax exempt status, you can complain. When having religion isn't an unspoken requirement for getting anything close to higher office, you can complain. Until then, your complaints ring hollow.

Burn for an eternity? lmao

...well? Are you going to explain what you're getting at? Last I checked - which was last Sunday - hell was supposed to be eternal torment, yes, at least according to the majority of doctrines. It's not like I stated something that isn't a common belief, and it sure seems like that's the belief that Sasquachit holds, so what's your beef?

 

[Freodin]

Yet another one who claims to understand where creationists are coming from because they can't even understand the Bible lol. Burn for an eternity? lmao

So what do you think Hell is?

 

[OllieFranz]

I gather you are using the Bible instead of a computer to communicate with us in CF I agree with you. Science is nothing more than a myth. We must get rid of everything science gave us. Medicine, electricity, transport, aeroplanes, dishwashers, x-ray machines, surgery, sorry but the list is just too long to mention here. Let us stop using any science and use only the Bible.

Even the Amish aren't that extreme!

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Where do u get that infanticide was a part of worship? Verse please?

I said that the Bible emphasises infanticide. God both committed infanticide when he slaughtered the first-borns of Egypt (Exodus 11:4-6), and he commanded infanticide when he told the Israelites to "utterly destroy" the tribe of Amalek, explicitly including "infant and suckling" (1 Samuel 15:3).

Where do u get that they r false??

Well, as I said, Genesis says that plants formed on third day, and the Sun formed on the fourth day, thus placing plants before the Sun. This is false, as the Sun formed 4.5 billion years ago, and plants formed much later (algal scum formed 1.2 billion years ago, and land plants arose only 0.45 billion years ago). So the Sun is 4 billion years older than plants, contrary to Genesis 1.

As well, the bulk of Exodus concerns the Hebrews' enslavement by Egypt, yet there is no evidence that this ever occurred (and, indeed, the sheer logistics of such an event would guarantee its record). Rather, Exodus is a reflection on the need to trust in and reconcile with God, even in times of hardship (such as enslavement). Indeed, much of the more mythological elements of Exodus are quite obviously borrowed from older, neighbouring myths (Moses' salvation from the Nile is a copy of the story of King Sargon, while Moses' parting of the Red Sea is a copy of Mesopotamian creation mythology).

In short, the stories in Genesis and Exodus don't match up to real history - but then, they were never meant to. They're not textbooks on science or history, they're parables on theology and morality.

Of course, there is only one true God who made all things. All of life/creation has His fingerprint.

Yes, and I'm asking you to point to one of these fingerprints. What fingerprints demonstrate supernatural creation by the God of the Bible?

Ok, well good luck in the end. Common ancestry can only go so far.

Do u know of the saying, "there r no atheists in hell."? Why u might ask? Because all people will meet God in the end.

I've never heard that saying; Christians seem to shout "TURN OR BURN!" with a single voice. But if believing in God doesn't change one's destined afterlife, then that's a much better cosmology than is traditionally presented.

 

[TLK Valentine]

But America was founded on Christianity.

Actually, it was founded on economics. Most people came here to get rich.

 

[nuttypiglet]

I said that the Bible emphasises infanticide. God both committed infanticide when he slaughtered the first-borns of Egypt (Exodus 11:4-6), and he commanded infanticide when he told the Israelites to "utterly destroy" the tribe of Amalek, explicitly including "infant and suckling" (1 Samuel 15:3).


Well, as I said, Genesis says that plants formed on third day, and the Sun formed on the fourth day, thus placing plants before the Sun. This is false, as the Sun formed 4.5 billion years ago, and plants formed much later (algal scum formed 1.2 billion years ago, and land plants arose only 0.45 billion years ago). So the Sun is 4 billion years older than plants, contrary to Genesis 1.

As well, the bulk of Exodus concerns the Hebrews' enslavement by Egypt, yet there is no evidence that this ever occurred (and, indeed, the sheer logistics of such an event would guarantee its record). Rather, Exodus is a reflection on the need to trust in and reconcile with God, even in times of hardship (such as enslavement). Indeed, much of the more mythological elements of Exodus are quite obviously borrowed from older, neighbouring myths (Moses' salvation from the Nile is a copy of the story of King Sargon, while Moses' parting of the Red Sea is a copy of Mesopotamian creation mythology).

In short, the stories in Genesis and Exodus don't match up to real history - but then, they were never meant to. They're not textbooks on science or history, they're parables on theology and morality.


Yes, and I'm asking you to point to one of these fingerprints. What fingerprints demonstrate supernatural creation by the God of the Bible?


I've never heard that saying; Christians seem to shout "TURN OR BURN!" with a single voice. But if believing in God doesn't change one's destined afterlife, then that's a much better cosmology than is traditionally presented.

God didn't commit any such thing. infanticide is UNLAWFUL killing. God doesn't have such a law for himself, in fact, what God creates he has to right to take away. Egypt had ample warnings for this, God did lots of other miracles to prove his power. Egypt should have listened to the advice.

 

[AV1611VET]

We're a Christian nation -- live with it.

You are not... live with that.

Do you think it's coincidental that we support Israel?

I suppose invoking the Abrahamic covenant would just compound your perplexity even more, wouldn't it?

 

[AV1611VET]

I think that the questions is too complex for him to understand.

Ditto for Freodin.

 

[lasthero]

God didn't commit any such thing. infanticide is UNLAWFUL killing. God doesn't have such a law for himself, in fact, what God creates he has to right to take away. Egypt had ample warnings for this, God did lots of other miracles to prove his power. Egypt should have listened to the advice.

It was just the Pharoah. He was the one who didn't listen, and God took it outon the Egyptians. I seem to recall the Egyptians actually begged Pharoah to let them go, though I could be remembering it wrong.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God didn't commit any such thing. infanticide is UNLAWFUL killing.

Where are you getting that definition from? Because I assure you, no reputable dictionary specifies legality in its definition of "infanticide."

God doesn't have such a law for himself, in fact, what God creates he has to right to take away.

So God has no rules for himself -- and yet, people are still naive enough to think He can be bound to a covenant.

Someone help you if He chooses to renege.

Egypt had ample warnings for this, God did lots of other miracles to prove his power. Egypt should have listened to the advice.

Egypt couldn't listen to the advice because God made a point of hardening Pharaoh's heart (negating his free will, it should be noted), thus playing both sides of the conflict towards its inevitable (and desired) result -- infanticide.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're related to dirty chimps -- live with it.

Nope -- no Homos in my family tree.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Nope -- no Homos in my family tree.

Concocted in a laboratory, eh? Explains a lot, actually.

 

[AV1611VET]

It all boils down to semantics and the law. You claim that the US is a Christian nation because God deemed it so but this is just your opinion and does not hold any credence.

Doesn't hold credence with whom? atheists? those who don't believe in God?

I can understand that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who says the USA is a Christian nation?

God.

Why isn't a Muslim, or Buddhist, nation?

Why isn't a Muslim or Buddhist nation, what?

What does "Christian nation" mean?

It means it is a nation whose God is the LORD, because God placed His name on it.

Is the UK a Christian nation?

At one time, I believe it was.

Britian was a lighthouse for God, especially in the days of Charles Spurgeon; but today, she is a mission field.

I don't know how much longer we're going to be a Christian nation; but should God stamp ICHABOD across our land, I hope it's after the Rapture.

Or Russia? Or Israel? Or Kenya?

What is this all of a sudden?

If you want to suspect if another country is Christian or not, one of the best ways is to see if they follow the Abrahamic covenant or not.