Is Creationism a Fairy Tale?

[Wiccan_Child]

Thank you. I had a quote from Einstein but was told it offended the non-believers to use a quote from him. So I used this one and added my two cents in for good measure.

What was the Einstein quote, if I may?

 

[nuttypiglet]

Because humans take 18 years to mature, which is a significant investment of resources. Thus, parents bonded by love are much more successful at rearing a child, since it needs long-term cooperation and altruism (something parents of hate are much less inclined to do).

Moreover, it is socially suicidal to engage in rape to proliferate one's genes. From the sheer calculus of it, you can have and rear more babies to adulthood through love and cooperation, than you can through rape.

In a society of today, maybe. Thanks to highly advanced medicines and equipment we can deal with many things. Also we have lots of highly technical surgical techniques to help ensure a young child survives. If we lived in a more primitive situation, with no such techniques or equipment, the story would be very different. Surely the emphasis would be on the appearance of the male, rather than behaviour/kindness/love etc. You would look for the physical qualities of the male and go for the best. Many animals use this method. They choose the best looking, strongest etc. They don't base their decisions on who purchases the biggest bunch of flowers or box of chocolates.

 

[lasthero]

No Geologists don't care, they tell the truth,

You'll be very, very hard pressed to find a geologist that believes in a young-earth or that there was a worldwide flood. The vast majority of geologists accept the idea of an old-earth and even use dating techniques to measure its age. I'm fairly certain you would say they don't tell truth.

I have to wonder just how many fossils are found in the wrong layer, but are labelled as the expected one, hmmm.

You can wonder all you like, you have no evidence that such things happen with any real frequency, so who cares?

What it means is, there is 25 million years of evolution missing with corals in southern Indiana. There is no evidence of any erosion, it leaves evidence.

Can you provide a link for this? I looked through Google, ran a few searches, couldn't find anything that talked about this. But even if it's true - what's your point? There are plenty of coral throughout the world that DOES have such evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

I had a quote from Einstein but was told it offended the non-believers to use a quote from him.

Half of them offend easily, the other half fake it.

Post the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn and see if I'm not right.

 

[Freodin]

In a society of today, maybe. Thanks to highly advanced medicines and equipment we can deal with many things. Also we have lots of highly technical surgical techniques to help ensure a young child survives. If we lived in a more primitive situation, with no such techniques or equipment, the story would be very different. Surely the emphasis would be on the appearance of the male, rather than behaviour/kindness/love etc. You would look for the physical qualities of the male and go for the best. Many animals use this method. They choose the best looking, strongest etc. They don't base their decisions on who purchases the biggest bunch of flowers or box of chocolates.

Perhaps you should consider that your opinion is not the ultima ratio of sociology?

 

[Freodin]

Half of them offend easily, the other half fake it.

Post the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn and see if I'm not right.

As long as you don't bother to understand others, you will keep on being wrong.

 

[lasthero]

So you agree floods TODAY are common, but when we mention Noah, it's a no no.

I didn't say it's a 'no no'. But there's no reason to make the leap that, because an animal was buried quickly by water, that there was a worldwide flood. Floods happen. They need not be worldwide.

How can you possibly know if ALL dinosaurs were fossilized or not?

I didn't say I KNEW all dinosaurs weren't fossilized. But the rarity at which we find them would suggest so. If they were all fossilized, finding them would be a much easier affair.

What percentage of the Earth has been covered looking for fossils?

Every single continent, in just about every single area. It would actually be much easier for me to list places where we HAVEN'T found dinosaur fossils.

Dinosaur Fossil Locations - EnchantedLearning.com

And keep in mind - that's JUST dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are just one clade. That's not counting fossils we've found for mammals and fish and insects that are similarly rare.

 

[AV1611VET]

Even quotes from the Koran on a courthouse lawn get them going...

That would get ME going too!

... so it's not just the Bible.

Last I checked, this isn't a Muslim nation.

What is the matter with these people?

What people? believers or unbelievers?

why do they want to keep sticking to the constitution?

You must be in sarcasm mode or something.

Don't they realise that if you're religious you can go against the constitution?

I'm not talking about JWs.

or at least think you can.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Believers? unbelievers? what?

 

[Freodin]

Last I checked, this isn't a Muslim nation.

Sometimes you surprise me! You are indeed right on this.

What you keep ignoring though... it isn't a Christian nation either.

 

[Sasquatchit]

It is sad that some people would dare to categorize the Bible as mere myth. It is, by far, the best book ever created in the world! My lack of verbage could never express its fullest qualities and content. It is our HISTORY from the beginning, our teachings about God, and that which is to come, the end....

Whether u like it or not, no matter how much we fight and quibble over words and false theories, there is TRUTH, and there is God's fingerprint all over creation....

U can study all u want in science to try to figure out how snippets of time evolved...but in reality, all u get is swiss cheese...u will NEVER figure it out, other than what He has already told us!

Ecc. 3:11 "He has made everything beautiful in its time....no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end."

Ecc. 7:29 "...God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes." [No big bang, and ape theories here!]

 

[Sasquatchit]

It is sad that some people would dare to categorize the Bible as mere myth. It is, by far, the best book ever created in the world! My lack of verbage could never express its fullest qualities and content. It is our HISTORY from the beginning, our teachings about God, and that which is to come, the end....

Whether u like it or not, no matter how much we fight and quibble over words and false theories, there is TRUTH, and there is God's fingerprint all over creation....

U can study all u want in science to try to figure out how snippets of time evolved...but in reality, all u get is swiss cheese...u will NEVER figure it out, other than what He has already told us!

Ecc. 3:11 "He has made everything beautiful in its time....no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end."

Ecc. 7:29 "...God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes." [No big bang, and ape theories here!]

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[morningstar2651]

The Bible and every major culture acknowledge a world wide flood. Your disbelieve doesn't change that.

Correction: Many cultures have a deluge myth in which the world is cleansed by a flood and someone from that culture survives in a boat.

They don't acknowledge that this flood literally happened - it's a story that contains deeper truths.

 

[AV1611VET]

What you keep ignoring though... it isn't a Christian nation either.

Because God doesn't exist?

 

[AV1611VET]

They don't acknowledge that this flood literally happened - it's a story that contains deeper truths.

More like they are diabolical plagiarisms.

 

[Sasquatchit]

Sorry, I meant my comment above to go to the end.

 

[mzungu]

It is sad that some people would dare to categorize the Bible as mere myth. It is, by far, the best book ever created in the world! My lack of verbage could never express its fullest qualities and content. It is our HISTORY from the beginning, our teachings about God, and that which is to come, the end....

Whether u like it or not, no matter how much we fight and quibble over words and false theories, there is TRUTH, and there is God's fingerprint all over creation....

U can study all u want in science to try to figure out how snippets of time evolved...but in reality, all u get is swiss cheese...u will NEVER figure it out, other than what He has already told us!

Ecc. 3:11 "He has made everything beautiful in its time....no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end."

Ecc. 7:29 "...God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes." [No big bang, and ape theories here!]

I gather you are using the Bible instead of a computer to communicate with us in CF I agree with you. Science is nothing more than a myth. We must get rid of everything science gave us. Medicine, electricity, transport, aeroplanes, dishwashers, x-ray machines, surgery, sorry but the list is just too long to mention here. Let us stop using any science and use only the Bible.

 

[Freodin]

Because God doesn't exist?

Is Saudi Arabia a Muslim nation?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Because God doesn't exist?

Because we didn't vote Him into office.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is Saudi Arabia a Muslim nation?

Why don't you tell me?

You already said we aren't a Christian nation, and you evidently don't want to tell me the real reason why.

I suspect you think we never were in the first place; but I could be wrong.

 

[Sasquatchit]

Thank you. I had a quote from Einstein but was told it offended the non-believers to use a quote from him. So I used this one and added my two cents in for good measure.

Assuming that ur 2 cents is the latter part? Well done, good job!