razeontherock
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Being an atheist is contrary to God's will but they have better marriage success than born again Christians.


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Being an atheist is contrary to God's will but they have better marriage success than born again Christians.
Natural family planning is one of the biggest cop outs I have ever heard of. If the intent is the same, why does the method matter?
In any case, I did not find anything supporting the idea that condom use actually increases hiv prevalence (especially with proper and consistent condom use). I found it noteworthy, that one of patricius' links mentioned cicumcision as an important prevention method, which, according to all I've read is much less effective than proper condom use.
It is also 'possible' that the Pope is in reality a giant cephalopod, come from Neptune on a secret mission to teach all the good little boys and girls of Australia about the importance of flossing.
Baseless assertions are fun.
The bible belt has the highest abortion rates and lowest use of safe sex and contraception.
Im going to take a Calvinist approach on this one and say birth control is the will of God stopping babies who should not come into the world.
I'm not a fan of Calvinism ether but i pretty sure i have not misrepresented it.While I don't disagree with your major premise, and I'm no fan of Calvinism - I don't think you should pretend this represents it.
can you explain?Don't ya kinda have to question the accuracy of any statistic claiming knowledge of "use of safe sex?"
Stats to back that up?
I think you'll find that to be the same across the board :o to our shame.
"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."
U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas
Atheists pwn. Can I get a terrorist fist jab up in here?
Not quite. From your article:
"These findings confirm what I have been saying these last five years. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals, it stands to reason that our families would be dedicated more to each other than to some invisible monitor in the sky."
You have to admit, this is the stereotypical nonsense you would expect to see. Why not factor in the fact that people in Church are more prone to getting married than atheists are? Why not recognize the social pressures that are pretty horrible reasons to get married, and their influence they have here?
Not quite. From your article:
"These findings confirm what I have been saying these last five years. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals, it stands to reason that our families would be dedicated more to each other than to some invisible monitor in the sky."
You have to admit, this is the stereotypical nonsense you would expect to see. Why not factor in the fact that people in Church are more prone to getting married than atheists are? Why not recognize the social pressures that are pretty horrible reasons to get married, and their influence they have here?
Not quite. From your article:
"These findings confirm what I have been saying these last five years. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals, it stands to reason that our families would be dedicated more to each other than to some invisible monitor in the sky."
You have to admit, this is the stereotypical nonsense you would expect to see. Why not factor in the fact that people in Church are more prone to getting married than atheists are? Why not recognize the social pressures that are pretty horrible reasons to get married, and their influence they have here?
2. You say Church goers are more prone to getting married. There any way you can back that up?
3. If there were social pressures to get married, wouldn't there be social pressures to stay married?
You mean like how un planned pregnancy puts pressure to marry, which ends up later in divorce? And how condoms can lower the divorce rate of Christians?
can you say fractually wrong?
Wow, way to quote mine. That was one of many quotes in the article belonging to both believers and non believers and was provided as commentary from members of the groups represented in the study, not as the opinions of the article writers themselves OR the people who actually did the research.
Like social pressures like those exerted by... their religion?
At any rate, the linked study clearly proves that the earlier statement that atheists have statistically fewer divorces is true. There are certainly many factors that may or may not contribute to this, but isn't that the point? However you want to slice it, the differences in the beliefs and behaviors of the groups show a statistical significant difference, especially when atheists are compared to Bible Belt and fundamentalist christians.
Statistics are good for only so much. What pressures exist for an atheist to get married?
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What happened to the opening poster?
The one with the whole point here?
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Wow, way to quote mine. That was one of many quotes in the article belonging to both believers and non believers and was provided as commentary from members of the groups represented in the study, not as the opinions of the article writers themselves OR the people who actually did the research.
If it does not represent anything being posited here, defend that point. I think it's obvious you didn't because it can't be done.
No, not in the least. If you must think of Christianity as a religion,
Which leader? There are a lot of leaders in christianity. Did Jesus say that somewhere?then
you should at least have the decency to point out that those closest to the leader concluded that it is better not to marry.
So their churches, their spiritual leaders, their holy holidays, and their ritualistic practices are not part of both religion and society? A religion isn't separate from the society it is found in. It's part of it.Which would mean that said social pressures come not from the religion, but ... (wait for it) from society.
What exactly you mean by 'good job' or 'this area'? Vague wording just makes it look like you're flapping in the wind. Be specific.A specific portion of society that atheists make a point of separating themselves from. And that specific portion of society doesn't generally do such a good job in this area, although there are exceptional congregations and leaders.
Among 384 individuals, yes. Please don't feign ignorance of "sample size" as a term; this study is a JOKE. Now you want to consider what they refer to as "fundamentalist?"![]()