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I believe confession of sin or seeking forgiveness with the Lord Jesus can play a part in one's entrance to be saved when accepting the gospel and Christ. But confession of sin can be a continual thing at different points in a believer's life. For king David had confessed of his sins and he surely was a man of God before and after his confession of sin in Psalms 51. Paul was desiring the Corinthians to repent, and they did so with a godly sorrow (See: 2 Corinthians 7:10). In the Parable of the Prodigal Son: We learn that when the prodigal son came back home, and sought forgiveness with his father, he was said by his father to "dead" and now he is "alive again." The father was speaking in spiritual terms. The son was "spiritually dead" when he was living a prodigal sinful life, and he became "spiritually alive again" when he sought forgiveness of his sins with his father. Jesus is our Everlasting Father because we will one day be resurrected sons after his likeness.
Only all past sins are forgiven. Future sin is not forgiven a believer. Jesus said to the woman caught in the act of adultery that she was not condemned by He also told her to "sin no more." (John 8:11). Jesus also told a man that he healed to "sin no more, unless a worse thing were to come upon him." Also, 1 John 2:1 says we are to "sin not" but if we do happen to sin, we have an advocate that we can go to named Jesus Christ. 1 John 1:9 is context or view of Jesus being our advocate. We are told in Scripture to come before the throne of grace in time of need. What does that even mean if it is not confession to the Lord Jesus Christ? Is not Jesus our Heavenly high priest who intercedes for us? Does not the Lord's prayer include us seeking forgiveness of our debts (sins)?
Actually, many in the OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) camp believe this way. But it is not biblical. Yes, one can be sanctified by a specific event like the renewal of one's heart, but it does not stop there.
Sanctify:
John 17:17
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
Ephesians 5:25-27
25 "...even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."
"Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you." (John 15:3).
"Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit...". (1 Peter 1:22).
"Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word."
(Psalms 119:9)
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
“But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.” (1 John 2:5).
Sanctify & Sanctified:
John 17:19
"And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth."
1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." (1 Peter 4:1-2).
“He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” (1 John 2:6).
"For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps." (1 Peter 2:21).
Sanctification:
1 Thessalonians 4:3
"For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:"
"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God." (2 Corinthians 7:1).
"For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness." (1 Thessalonians 4:7).
"So all people who have this confidence in Christ keep themselves pure, as Christ is pure." (1 John 3:3 GW).
"Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also." Matthew 23:26).
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." (Luke 6:45).
"Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God." (Matthew 5:8).
Sanctification & Sanctified:
1 Thessalonians 4:4
"That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;"
2 Timothy 2:21
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
7 "But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body." (2 Corinthians 4:7-10).
16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."
(1 Corinthians 3:16-17).
Where does the Bible say that?
Where does the Bible say that?
I don't see how this passage supports what you just said. It is talking about how we need to forgive, or we will not be forgiven by the Father.
14 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15).
How can we be saved if we are not forgiven by the Father?
So this is talking in relation to salvation here.
We need to forgive others if we hope to be forgiven or saved by God.
What is interesting is that this was said after the Lord's prayer.
Meaning: A believer is cautioned to forgive others as a part of their right standing forgiveness with God. Salvation is conditional. While we are given a new heart with new desires. We are not love robots.
Believers have to endure to the end, endure temptation, be faithful unto death, overcome, and keep themselves in the love of God in order to be saved.
“...We are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” (Hebrews 3:13-14).
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life,...” (James 1:12).
“...He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Matthew 24:13).
"...be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Revelation 2:10).
“To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life,...” (Revelation 2:7).
"...He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." (Revelation 2:11).
"He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life,...” (Revelation 3:5).
"Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." (Jude 1:21).
We are told to:
- Continue in the grace of God (Acts of the Apostles 13:43).
- Continue in the faith (Acts of the Apostles 14:22) (Colossians 1:23).
- Continue in his goodness, otherwise we can be cut off (just like the Jews were cut off) (Romans 11:21-22).
So we are not changed to a point whereby we will automatically do good. We have to live out this life faithfully for God (Which is by our own choice). For this is the reason why we are living this life now. It is a test. This life is for us to prove to God our faithfulness to Him. We are not forced to be faithful to Him. We have to choose this day (every day) in who we will serve.
Well, I finally went to bed and read this post that I printed, and for the most part, we believe a lot the same. BTW, I do not believe in OSAS, and what I said has nothing to do with that heresy.
Where we differ is on sanctification. You seem to be one that believes the theory that it is a life-long process to overcome sin. I don't. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe there is a process, but not overcoming sin, but developing the mind of Christ in glorification.
2 Peter 1:
4 For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. 5 Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, 6 and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, 7 and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love.
The other is on trespasses. You don't seem to know the difference between a sin of lawlessness and a trespass. The Lord's Prayer is asking forgiveness of trespasses, not sins of lawlessness,1 John 3:4, as if "sin is sin." It also goes on to say, "as we forgive those who trespass against us." That goes along with Matthew 6:14-15. Also, you don't seem to know that the Bible calls a trespass, one that is committed unwittingly, and asked where - Leviticus 5:15.
Also, Jesus is our Advocate for trespasses, NOT for sins of lawlessness which would REQUIRE repentance.
One question I have. Have you ever experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Some of what I've come to know is revealed and made clear by that experience.
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