Contrary to your false belief, Judas was genuine believer.
Absolutely false. Judas was an
unbelieving, unclean devil who betrayed Jesus. (John 6:64-71; 13:10-11)
I suggest you read Jn 17:6-12 which states that Judas and the rest of the disciples were given to Jesus by the Father = ELECTION.
John 17:12 - While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name.
Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and
none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the
Scripture might be fulfilled. John 18:9 - that the saying might be fulfilled which He spoke,
"Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none." Jesus did not lose Judas. Judas was already lost.
Syllogism
1. All given by the Father to Jesus are kept.
2. Judas was not kept.
3. Judas was not given to Jesus by the Father
Or, this way.
1. None of those given to Jesus by the Father will be lost by Jesus.
2. Judas is lost.
3. Judas was not given to Jesus by the Father.
Despite being kept in Jesus' name (which only applies to believers) Judas was still lost because he chose to depart from the faith by betraying his Savior. By definition one cannot betray someone else whom he was never loyal/faithful to begin with.
The other 11 disciples were kept in Jesus' name, but not Judas, the son of perdition.
Are you not aware that you employ an argument from silence which is the weakest form of argumentation? Just because "lose or lost salvation" is not quoted in Scripture does not mean it is not untrue.
Not weak at all and that definitive term (lost salvation) is found nowhere in Scripture, but you are free to believe whatever you want to believe.
The word abortion is not in the Bible either but that does not mean abortion is okay does it?
Murder is and abortion is murder.
You also specialize in ignoring context.
You specialize is eisegesis, as demonstrated below. I don't ignore the context and I properly harmonize Scripture with Scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine.
If you bothered to study the verb tenses surrounding Jn 6:39 you will find that in v.37 the Greek word for "come" is ἐρχόμενον which is a present tense participle. This is indicative of an ongoing process better translated as "coming" - not a just a one time moment in the past when one "came" to salvation. Also in v.40 the word πιστεύων is also a present tense participle better translated as "believing." Thus those continuing to believe have the assurance of eternal life.
I understand that saving belief continues and is not some shallow, temporary belief that has no root, produces no fruit and withers away. Those who continue to believe demonstrate that their belief/faith was firmly rooted and established from the start and have the assurance of eternal life.
Conversely those who cease to believe, no longer have the assurance of eternal life.
Those who cease to believe demonstrate that their shallow, temporary belief was never firmly rooted and established from the start. Unlike saving belief, temporary shallow belief is not rooted in a regenerate heart. There is a stage in the progress of belief in Jesus that "falls short of firmly rooted, consummated belief resulting in salvation."
You have a penchant for quoting Jn 10:27-28 but totally ignore what v.27 states. The promises contained in v.28 only applies to those sheep who listen and follow Jesus.
Pure eisegesis. In John 10:27, Jesus said My sheep hear My voice, (not some of them do and some of them don't) and I know them, (not some of them He knows and some of them He doesn't know) and they follow Me, (not some of them follow Him and some of them don't follow Him) And I give them eternal life, (not some of them He gives eternal life and some of them He doesn't give them eternal life) and they shall never perish; (not some of them shall never perish and some of them will perish) neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. (not some of them will never be snatched out of His hand and some of them will be snatched out of His hand).
Those who don't are not entitled to the promises in v.28.
All of His sheep are entitled to the promises in verse 28. Those who are not entitled to the promises in verse 28 are those who
do not believe because they are NOT of His sheep. (verse 26)
And I already demonstrated to you earlier that Rom 8:30 is a false chain of salvation as the word for called in v.30 is "kaleo" which is the same word used in Gal 1:6. Paul testified that those called/kaleo Galatians were turning away from Christ to follow another gospel. Rather than resorting to proof-texting to support you beliefs, I suggest you pay attention to context and the Greek text.
Rather than hastily rushing to accommodate your preconceived ideas, I suggest that you pay attention to the context, the Greek text and be sure to properly harmonize Scripture with Scripture before reaching your conclusion on your biased, cynical doctrine.
The present tense indicates that the action is in progress, but was not yet complete. Paul knows there is hope of recovery and restoration.
Just as in Galatians 5:4, in which these Galatians were contemplating justification by the law. They were getting side tracked by legalistic teachers. "You who are trying to be justified by the law have fallen away from grace,"
but had they fully come to that place yet? Galatians 3:3 reads: Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? The middle voice implies "making yourselves perfect" by means of self effort.
The present tense indicates that the action is in progress and that there is still time to correct the error. If these Galatians lost their salvation and it was a done deal, then why didn't Paul simply say you "lost your salvation" and I'm done with you? Instead, in verse 10, he said -
I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is.
We know the
end result for those who are
predestined, called and justified: (regardless of getting sidetracked along the way)
and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them.
Jesus' own words contradict what you assert. Jesus is the door and he warned the lukewarm Laodicean Church to repent and open the door to Him, lest Jesus spit them out of his mouth. A believer is free to enter the door as well as exit the door.
Jesus said that He is the door and not a revolving door. Revelation 3:17 - Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'--and do not know that
you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked-18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore
be zealous and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
His sheep hear His voice. (John 10:27) Obviously, these churches in Revelation did not consist of all believers. Just like today, in any given church at any given location, it's not hard to find unbelievers/make believers mixed in with believers. Jesus points out the lifeless state of the church in Sardis -
"..you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead." This church may have had a name of being alive, but they were spiritually lifeless. In other words, the church was
filled with unsaved people going through the motions who needed to wake up and repent IN CONTRAST with a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments; and they will walk with Jesus in white. *So no loss of salvation here. *Only a need to receive it.
I suggest you read 1 John paying particular attention to those verses which plainly address the believer's assurance but I doubt that you even understand it.
I understand 1 John just fine, regardless of your eisegesis.
No roller coaster for those that abide in Him contrary to your false imaginings.
The Greek word for "abide" is "meno" which means to remain, tarry, not to depart, continue to be present.
Abiding in Christ is not a special level of Christian experience that is only available to a few, elite believers, but is the position of all genuine believers. 1 John 4:13 - By this we
know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. I have witnessed the despair of those who are on that roller coaster ride of fear and bondage to IN-security first hand. Prior to my conversion several years ago, while still attending the Roman Catholic church, I was on that roller coaster ride.
Pointless or convenient for you to ignore?? Since you choose to ignore these parables which were the main tools Jesus used for teaching spiritual truth, I'll just refer you to another scripture for you to ignore. Problem for you is that this scripture isn't a parable to the Pharisees.
I did not ignore those parables and I thoroughly explained the parable of prodigal son in context using scripture, but you conveniently chose to ignore it in favor of your biased belief. As I already stated in post #227, the parables were used to rebuke the Pharisees and scribes. In the opening chapter of Luke 15, we see the
Pharisees and scribes complaining that Jesus receives sinners and eats with them, but go ahead and disregard that and believe what you want to believe, which you will do regardless.
Refer to Jude 1:12 where John refers to those "twice dead." Just exactly how does one become twice dead? We both know that according to Heb 9:27, we physically die but once. So how does one become twice dead?
Jude 1:12 is yet another verse that is misunderstood by eternal IN-securists. A tree being dead to the core as such a tree was utterly incapable of producing good fruit then being
uprooted is
twice dead. The NAS reads
"doubly dead."
*Notice in Jude 12 that these trees will be
"uprooted."
*Notice in Matthew 15:13, Jesus said -
Every plant which My heavenly Father
did not plant shall be
"uprooted."
Jude did not say that these certain men who have have
crept in unnoticed, who long ago were
marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who
turn the grace of our God into lewdness and
deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ were saved and then lost their salvation. You really need to read the entire chapter of Jude and don't merely isolate one verse.
Jude is exhorting believers to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints (vs. 3) because
certain ungodly men who have crept in unnoticed. Jude further describes these
ungodly men as ones who
cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit (vs. 19)
IN CONTRAST to those who are
called, sanctified by God the Father, and PRESERVED in Jesus Christ (vs. 1). Psalm 37:28 - For the Lord loves justice, And
does not forsake His saints; They are
PRESERVED FOREVER, But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.