Is belief enough to be saved?

[Albion]

according to Scripture we must put to death the deeds of the flesh and suffer with Christ in order to be saved Rom 8:13, 17 (I think that is the right verse)

"he who endures to the end will be saved"

Well, that is what Faith will go for a person. I mean, it's not as though the above conflicts with Sola Fide or teaches works-righteousness.

 

[patricius79]

Well, that is what Faith will go for a person. I mean, it's not as though the above conflicts with Sola Fide or teaches works-righteousness.

some hold that Sola Fide means that once we have faith there is nothing we need to do to be saved

I think those verses say otherwise. however, I would always emphasize that these are supernatural works, and that we are saved purely by grace

and as Paul says, "I worked harder than anyone, not I, but the grace of God with me!"

 

[Albion]

some hold that Sola Fide means that once we have faith there is nothing we need to do to be saved

I think "nothing we do to be saved" is somewhat of a loaded way of saying it, but the point is that it is only by faith that we are saved, and there's nothing in either of these two statements that conflicts with Sola Fide.

put to death the deeds of the flesh and suffer with Christ

he who endures to the end will be saved"

 

[Schroeder]

Hi guys, I am a Christian but I have a question about whether or not belief in God is enough to be saved.

Here are some verses that show that belief = salvation.







You guys get the point. And this sounds great. But, what about this?



The way I understand it, "belief" in Jesus Christ isn't enough to be saved. True belief in Jesus will result in fruit that is evident by a lifestyle change, a heart change: that you want nothing else to do with the world that satisfies the needs of the flesh but really only care about satisfying God and being led by the Spirit.

However, if this is the case, what do we make of the first 3 verses I posted? They clearly seem to state that belief is all that is needed for salvation.

Can somebody please shine a light on this issue for me? I think how we understand salvation really changes how we live our lives and especially how we evangelize to others (in other words, if belief isn't enough to be saved, we shouldn't be spreading that as a final end).

Thank you for your help.

read acts 15:8. God knows the heart. its belief AND receiving of the SPirit. one can believe all they want. but one must believe and receive the Spirit(baptism) mark 16:16. believe and be baptized. Read the many verses that says when we believe we receive the SPirit. but the Belief is the FAITH in the gospel as in we ACCEPT it into our hearts which GOD sees. So belief only yes sort of. belief with the receiving of the SPirit baptism saves. SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH(or belief in the gospel message and accepting it into your heart.) the accepting in to your heart part is the through faith.

 

[Schroeder]

I think "nothing we do to be saved" is somewhat of a loaded way of saying it, but the point is that it is only by faith that we are saved, and there's nothing in either of these two statements that conflicts with Sola Fide.

well actualy what you said is loaded too. its saved by grace THROUGH faith. its the "through faith" part we need to understand. which i explained a bit above. belief in the gospel message of the work of the cross and accepting this into your heart, which God knows. its this faith that is the "through faith" part. And at this point we are spirit baptized. mark 16:16. believe and are (spirit)baptized.

 

[Albion]

well actualy what you said is loaded too. its saved by grace THROUGH faith.

In these conversations, that's assumed. Both the Catholic and the Protestant POVs--Faith and Works OR Sola Fide--understand that everything begins with God's enabling Grace.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Lindas Place Saying you only sin a little won't cut it... with God.
James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Which begs the question:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7552108/
what is the whole law?

 

[Noxot]

eh... the OP question is so dang easy. belief is enough. believe in God and you will be changed and saved.

but dead belief is only gonna keep you dead.