Is Astrology a science?

[SelfSim]

What original oversight?

The absence of the appropriate emoticon as pointed out to you here.
(Do you wanna start a 'who can be the rudest' war here, amongst this board's community?)

 

[AV1611VET]

The absence of the appropriate emoticon as pointed out to you here.
(Do you wanna start a 'who can be the rudest' war here, amongst this board's community?)

I see what you're doing!

Cute!

 

[SelfSim]

I see what you're doing!

Cute!

Never mind what you think I'm doing .. Where's your respect for the community?

 

[AV1611VET]

Never mind what you think I'm doing .. Where's your respect for the community?

Sorry, Sim, I have NO idea what you're talking about (assuming you're being serious now).

Show me the exact post where you think I should place a winking smiley; and if I didn't, I'll try to explain why I didn't to your satisfaction.

 

[SelfSim]

Sorry, Sim, I have NO idea what you're talking about (assuming you're being serious now).

Show me the exact post where you think I should place a winking smiley; and if I didn't, I'll try to explain why I didn't to your satisfaction.

Ok .. fair enough .. my misread .. Apologies.
The original interchange concerned a recommendation of adherence to a generally accepted forum behaviour .. twas not about anything you posted, specifically.

I'm not so sure the dihydrogen monoxide phrase hasn't partially taken hold in a more serious way, however. I see the term 'dihydrogen' being used in lots of media reports nowadays. Perhaps its because its easier to print and read than H2?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok .. fair enough .. my misread .. Apologies.

Ain't no thang!

The original interchange concerned a recommendation of adherence to a generally accepted forum behaviour .. twas not about anything you posted, specifically.

No biggie.

I'm not so sure the dihydrogen monoxide phrase hasn't partially taken hold in a more serious way, however. I see the term 'dihydrogen' being used in lots of media reports nowadays. Perhaps its because its easier to print and read than H2?

It goes by a bunch of names, actually.

According to Wikipedia:

The parody has been used with other chemical names such as hydrogen hydroxide, dihydrogen oxide, hydroxic acid, and hydric acid.

However you look at it, it's a classic!

 

[sjastro]

That’s a hot mess! I hope the moon is better.

I really can't remember where the moon was in my chart.
I was born around 1.00 am in the morning and recall it was either Aries or Pisces depending on which side of 1.00 am I was born.

Contemplating such nonsensical ideas in my youth is probably best summarized as follows.

 

[Kylie]

Absolutely and irrevocably not.

• No experimental evidence supports the astrological claims.
  
• No plausible mechanism has been proposed to explain the purported relationships between astronomical patterns and human character.
  
• Astrological predictions are deliberately phrased in such a way to seem specific, yet to have a broad application.
  
• The field is replete with con artists (reprehensible) and entertainers (amusing for some).

All that said we should recognise the blending of astrology and astronomy at the birth of modern science. Alchemy and chemistry had a similar relationship.

I would post my own response, but this post covers pretty much everything I could say, so I'll just quote it.

 

[Strathos]

Funny phenomenon going on here... both the Christians and atheists don't like astrology, so they have to find something else to argue about, because we can't go around agreeing with each other.

 

[Kylie]

Funny phenomenon going on here... both the Christians and atheists don't like astrology, so they have to find something else to argue about, because we can't go around agreeing with each other.

You'd think Christians would be more amenable to astrology, given Genesis 1:14...

 

[AV1611VET]

You'd think Christians would be more amenable to astrology, given Genesis 1:14...

Maybe Christians know better?

Deuteronomy 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

 

[durangodawood]

Maybe Christians know better?....

Know better than Genesis? I mean it flat out says the stars are for signs.

 

[Kylie]

Maybe Christians know better?

Deuteronomy 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

God clearly stated that he put them there to be used as signs. Why would he then tell us NOT to do so?

 

[Strathos]

God clearly stated that he put them there to be used as signs. Why would he then tell us NOT to do so?

I think He was talking about astronomy there, not astrology. As in, using stars for marking and tracking calendar dates and such, not using them to try to predict that you were going to win the lottery or whatever.

 

[AV1611VET]

Know better than Genesis? I mean it flat out says the stars are for signs.

God clearly stated that he put them there to be used as signs. Why would he then tell us NOT to do so?

Signs = Constellations

They are pictographs of God's plan of salvation; and Israel's future, written in advanced.

 

[durangodawood]

Signs = Constellations

They are pictographs of God's plan of salvation; and Israel's future, written in advanced.

Interesting. Do you have an example of one of these pictographs? Is it like Pisces = Jesus, symbolically?

 

[The Barbarian]

I know enough about it to know I'm a Gemini. Other than that, it's just a pseudoscience.

Well that explains it. I'm a Gemini, too. And Geminis don't believe in astrology.

 

[Phred]

Signs = Constellations

They are pictographs of God's plan of salvation; and Israel's future, written in advanced.

Some of the stars and galaxies in "constellations" are so far apart to consider them together in any way is just... sheer stupidity. I'm sorry. Some shepherd lying on a mountainside made up a shape out of the stars he saw and you think it's a sign from God.

 

[sjastro]

Signs = Constellations

They are pictographs of God's plan of salvation; and Israel's future, written in advanced.

Another example of the IAU's (International Astronomical Union) pure evilness.
Not only have they demoted Pluto but in 1930 they standardized on the number of constellations and their boundaries.
As a result many of the old constellations simply disappeared.

Sorry to disappoint you it's the IAU which defines the constellations not God.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is simple enough. We all know biology and chemistry and geology are fields of scientific endeavor. But what about Astrology? Do you consider that Astrology is a science?

Nope.