Is Astrology a science?

[Astrid]

For you of course I would!

Cool. But then I'd need all new wardrobe and
they'd be clamouring me to be Ms Hong Kong,
and otherwise disturbing my tranquil.
It's enough to know you could, and you care.

 

[Bradskii]

Cool. But then I'd need all new wardrobe and
they'd be clamouring me to be Ms Hong Kong,
and otherwise disturbing my tranquil.
It's enough to know you could, and you care.

We don't have to raise the bridge. We can lower the river.

How about we make everyone else shorter?

 

[Astrid]

We don't have to raise the bridge. We can lower the river.

How about we make everyone else shorter?

It would be environmentally sound.

 

[AV1611VET]

Rivers that meander aren't "etched into the Earth" they are just patterns in soft mud, sand, or soil cause by slow flowing waters.

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[AV1611VET]

Catastrophic flood huh.

The chalk is cretaceous and when / how
it eroded is a different topic.

That's only evidence that you choose to
believe an old story is literally true, believec that
your God is a mass murderer, and, believevthat
you know more than any scientist on earth.
Or than millions of educated Christians who
Understand it can't be literal.

That's a lot of believin'

In your opinion, do these "millions of educated Christians" agree with you that God is a mass murderer?

 

[AV1611VET]

How about we make everyone else shorter?

Now, now.

I'm Alfred E. Neuman.

Not Randy Newman.

 

[sjastro]

We don't have to raise the bridge. We can lower the river.

How about we make everyone else shorter?

Not recommended if we take this classic from the 70s into consideration.

 

[durangodawood]

Cool. But then I'd need all new wardrobe...

You discovered my one weakness. I cant do alterations.

 

[Tuur]

That's only evidence that you choose to
believe an old story is literally true, believec that
your God is a mass murderer, and, believevthat
you know more than any scientist on earth.
Or than millions of educated Christians who
Understand it can't be literal.

The question is what constitutes murder. A few minutes ago, I washed my hands. Did I murder millions of microorganisms? And yet I did not make these microorganisms. Here we are talking about a being who created not just all that we see, but spacetime itself. If He choses to end life that He created in the first place, can that be called murder?

 

[AV1611VET]

If He choses to end life that He created in the first place, can that be called murder?

Academia has a skewered concept of "murder".

In the case of the Flood, giving 120 years advanced notice doesn't qualify as "mitigating circumstances" to them.

He should have patted them on the wrist and told them to quit what they're doing, or they'll be placed in TIME OUT for an hour.

Note too that He's considered a "mass murder," while abortionists are justified in their duties.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

 

[Bradskii]

The question is what constitutes murder. A few minutes ago, I washed my hands. Did I murder millions of microorganisms? And yet I did not make these microorganisms. Here we are talking about a being who created not just all that we see, but spacetime itself. If He choses to end life that He created in the first place, can that be called murder?

Well...yeah. The taking of a life unjustly is murder. I created my son, but I have no right to end his life just because of that.

If you believe in the flood, then you have to accept that God drowned innocent children. That's murder.

 

[Tuur]

Rivers that meander aren't "etched into the Earth" they are just patterns in soft mud, sand, or soil cause by slow flowing waters.

Um...the Susquehanna River is older than the Appalachian mountains it flows through, which means it cut its path as the mountain range rose.

If you mean the classic oxbow river, to this non-geologist some seem to erode bows in a pre-existing channel. Maybe channel cut previously by the river and filled with sediment? Don't know, just something that catches my eye on maps.

I beg to differ about bows not forming during floods. Floods are when cuts form in bows.

Geology is interesting, and I'm not convinced everything is settled. Not just things like the Carolina Bays, which no one seems quite sure how they formed. There are sand dunes in places in the Southeastern US which are attributed to wind blowing sand out of dry river and stream channels during a glaciation period. Except they seem to be an awful huge amount of sand. This non-geologist is aware that there is supposed to be a difference between riverine and marine sand. Yet in some cases the amount of sand seems much greater than the associated channel.

I'm not arguing that this formed during the Flood. Frankly I don't know how they came about. Just some things that have caught my attention over the years.

 

[sjastro]

Getting onto a more serious topic of meandering rivers rather than tasteless attacks on short people the ancient Egyptians knew all about meandering rivers which also changed course with time.
In the 19th dynasty the pharaoh Ramesses II built a new capital city Pi-Ramesses on the banks of the Pelusiac branch of the Nile river delta which was much closer to the Egyptian vassal states in the Middle East and to the border with the hostile Hittite empire.
By the 21st dynasty the capital with a population of 300,000 people was in trouble as the Pelusiac branch had all but silted up and the rivers course had changed depriving the capital of water.

In true Egyptian style of extraordinary engineering the capital was dissembled and reconstructed at Tanis some 62 km distance.

 

[Astrid]

The question is what constitutes murder. A few minutes ago, I washed my hands. Did I murder millions of microorganisms? And yet I did not make these microorganisms. Here we are talking about a being who created not just all that we see, but spacetime itself. If He choses to end life that He created in the first place, can that be called murder?

Anything can be rationalized.

It's the event its deeply disrespectful to
pronounce a god one claims to worship
committed a (insert adjective) act that
did not in fact occur- which was the point,
not the precise adjective.

You discovered my one weakness. I cant do

Let's just call the whole thing off then.

 

[Astrid]

Um...the Susquehanna River is older than the Appalachian mountains it flows through, which means it cut its path as the mountain range rose.

If you mean the classic oxbow river, to this non-geologist some seem to erode bows in a pre-existing channel. Maybe channel cut previously by the river and filled with sediment? Don't know, just something that catches my eye on maps.

I beg to differ about bows not forming during floods. Floods are when cuts form in bows.

Geology is interesting, and I'm not convinced everything is settled. Not just things like the Carolina Bays, which no one seems quite sure how they formed. There are sand dunes in places in the Southeastern US which are attributed to wind blowing sand out of dry river and stream channels during a glaciation period. Except they seem to be an awful huge amount of sand. This non-geologist is aware that there is supposed to be a difference between riverine and marine sand. Yet in some cases the amount of sand seems much greater than the associated channel.

I'm not arguing that this formed during the Flood. Frankly I don't know how they came about. Just some things that have caught my attention over the years.

Read some geology, if you've any actual
interest in what you are seeing.

 

[AV1611VET]

Read some geology, if you've any actual interest in what you are seeing.

Speaking of geology, how is it the Colorado River allegedly carved out the Grand Canyon, when the Mississippi River didn't do diddly by comparison?

 

[Mark Quayle]

Well...yeah. The taking of a life unjustly is murder. I created my son, but I have no right to end his life just because of that.

If you believe in the flood, then you have to accept that God drowned innocent children. That's murder.

Well, no, you need to create your own dirt first from which to form your son, to create him. You don't own your son by right of creation. Your son is just as much a creature of God as you are.

 

[Bradskii]

Well, no, you need to create your own dirt first from which to form your son, to create him. You don't own your son by right of creation. Your son is just as much a creature of God as you are.

So creating children knowing full well that He was going to drown them is fine by you?

 

[Astrid]

So creating children knowing full well that He was going to drown them is fine by you?

As i said, it's making God out to be
a monster.

 

[Mark Quayle]

So creating children knowing full well that He was going to drown them is fine by you?

For HIM to do as he wished with his own creation is definitely ok with me. And I deserve no better than they did. Does he owe them mercy? No! He owes nobody anything!