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Is a Contiguous Count of Daniel’s 70 Weeks found in New Testament Writings?

Is a Contiguous Count of Daniel’s 70 Weeks found in New Testament Writings?


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Brian, you and I and the rest of believers currently compose that "third temple". It is a spiritual temple being steadily built up with "living stones", and built upon Christ the "chief cornerstone". The New Covenant is the "new world order", as you phrase it: a current spiritual reality in this world that was established long ago by Christ and the "New Covenant in His blood".
Hey, I was going to say that.:oldthumbsup:
 
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If the futurist are wrong why is a 3rd temple planned for at a time when a new world order is openly planned and that the fall of the entire current system is looking likely?
Do you think a new world order will allow animal sacrifices? Are they looking at allowing sacrifices during this planning stage?
 
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I have no problem recognizing Israel as a physical nation that has been restored. The thing that I question is if God recognizes them and deals with them differently than other people in the world who are citizens of other nations.

Do you think God treats people who call themselves Jews and live in Israel differently than others?

That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
Romans 11:20‭-‬21

They have a special relationship and is described as His bride.

Shalom
 
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Do you think a new world order will allow animal sacrifices? Are they looking at allowing sacrifices during this planning stage?


Yes the sacrifice will be restituted. At a certain level Satan is wanting to commit the abomination of desolation and like Judas when Satan entered him the LORD told him to do what he was going to do quickly and it all played out exactly as prophesied. The Rothchild family and Rockefeller's had a lot to do with the modern Zionist movement and they are clearly agents of darkness working towards the NWO. Satan wants to take that place and be worshipped as God and that is when he gains control over every tribe tongue nation for 42 months.
 
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Hey, I was going to say that.:oldthumbsup:
And you both are wrong.
The fact that we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God on earth now, does not mean there will never be a new Temple built in Jerusalem.
It must happen for Satan to desecrate it and when it is cleansed after Jesus Returns, He will reign from it.
They have a special relationship and is described as His bride.
The Jews have to believe in Jesus now and be re-grafted back into the Tree of Life, that is Jesus. Paul plainly states this; Romans 11:19-24
That most of them do not, is proved by Romans 9:27....only a remnant.

What you don't seem to see, is the many prophesies which say how the present Jewish State of Israel will be gone when the Lord sends His fiery wrath. Isaiah 6:11-13, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Jeremiah 12:14, +
 
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Acts 24-25 says, "When John had FIRST preached BEFORE His coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. And as John fulfilled his course" (at the end of John's ministry before his imprisonment), "he said, "Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose." At this end of John's ministry, he had already baptized Jesus 3 years before then. That is why John testified to the people in John 1:30-34 of what he had already told them formerly about Jesus, 3 years earlier at Jesus' baptism. "This is He of whom I said, After me" (after John had "fulfilled his course") "cometh a man which is preferred before me...And I have seen, and have borne witness" (3 years earlier) "that this is the Son of God."

John did no miracles by comparison (John 10:41). Against this earlier backdrop of John's preparatory teaching of repentance - with no miracles - Christ's ministry shone forth in a blaze of miraculous signs among the people that caused many to believe on Him, including His disciples (John 2:11 and John 10:41).

Christ Himself announced the beginning of the 70th week in Mark 1:15. This was after John had been put in prison (when he had "fulfilled his course"), when "Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, 'The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." That was the year AD 30 for the fulfillment of that appointed time. It was the end of the 69th week and the beginning of the 70th week when Christ as the "messenger of the covenant" would "confirm the covenant with many" of Daniel's people for that last intact 70th week.

This means Christ was crucified in AD 33 when He was around 36 years old. Truly a "mid-life crisis" took place for Him.

Hi 3 Resurrections,

I don't see how you get to this conclusion?

You highlight certain phrases then imply periods which cannot be substantiated or supported by Scripture. Well atleast I don't see it.

Again if you want me to support this view, you will need to support it better with Scripture.

Now if you look at #93 #94, it is easy to follow and ties in directly with Ezra 7: 9
tying in the start date which is confirmed in John 1, this is a double confirmation.

The only reason not to sit up and take note, is if it doesn't fit your narrative or you simply don't see it.

Shalom
 
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I don't see how you get to this conclusion?

You highlight certain phrases then imply periods which cannot be substantiated or supported by Scripture. Well atleastI don't see it.

There is a pattern in scripture of God's servants being put through a sort of "novitiate" period before they began their actual term of service. (We kind of have the same thing with the difference between a president being elected and then later on inaugurated). Joseph was in the Egyptian prison for approximately three years before he was elevated to Pharoah's right hand. Paul spent three years in Arabia getting instruction from God before he was commissioned in Jerusalem's temple to go to the Gentiles as the "Apostle to the Gentiles". The disciples were given 3-1/2 years of intimate instruction by Jesus Himself before they were given those 12 thrones of judgment to sit upon, judging the 12 tribes of Israel. Also, Paul cautions that a minister should "not be a novice" in the faith, lest they be lifted up in pride and succumb to the kind of offense that Satan committed.

So if there is also 3 years of Christ preaching in the synagogues since AD 27 BEFORE He began His miraculous ministry in AD 30, this would only be according to a typical pattern we find throughout scripture.

Christian Gedge entered a very good timeline for the details of the days around Christ's first miracle at Cana. What he did not emphasize in that visual, however, is that Jesus was "immediately" driven into the wilderness for 40 days following His baptism. So that tells us that John the Baptist testifying about Christ in John 1:26 could not possibly have been the actual time Jesus was baptized (which was earlier, back in AD 27). A stipulated "season" went by between Christ's baptism and the launching of His miraculous ministry at Cana.

So, Luke 3:1 helps to date an AD 27 baptism for Jesus, and John 2:20 at Jesus's first Passover (46 years since Herod's 17 BC temple renovations started) helps to date an AD 30 beginning of Christ miraculous ministry. In between these years is the "season" when the Devil had departed from Christ, and He was preaching in the synagogues, getting ready for the beginning of the 70th week, when He said in Mark 1:15, "The TIME is fulfilled..." It had been a three-year sort of "novitiate" period for Christ, just like the other examples of this that scripture has for positions of significant leadership.
 
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Christian Gedge entered a very good timeline for the details of the days around Christ's first miracle at Cana. What he did not emphasize in that visual, however, is that Jesus was "immediately" driven into the wilderness for 40 days following His baptism. So that tells us that John the Baptist testifying about Christ in John 1:26 could not possibly have been the actual time Jesus was baptized (which was earlier, back in AD 27). A stipulated "season" went by between Christ's baptism and the launching of His miraculous ministry at Cana.

It came up earlier. Have a look at post #102.

Also on a thread called 'Apparent chronological problems'
 
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Yes the sacrifice will be restituted. At a certain level Satan is wanting to commit the abomination of desolation and like Judas when Satan entered him the LORD told him to do what he was going to do quickly and it all played out exactly as prophesied. The Rothchild family and Rockefeller's had a lot to do with the modern Zionist movement and they are clearly agents of darkness working towards the NWO. Satan wants to take that place and be worshipped as God and that is when he gains control over every tribe tongue nation for 42 months.
So I personally don’t see any secular trend toward allowing animals to be killed in religious ceremonies. I think animal rights groups and environmentalists would condemn the practice.

Do you have any statistics or know of any polls on how many people would actually agree to legalize animal sacrifices?
 
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That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
Romans 11:20‭-‬21

They have a special relationship and is described as His bride.

Shalom
I want to talk more about the body of Christ and the bride of Christ. I had a thread awhile ago on this subject and I’m going to quote you on that thread to move our conversation over there.
 
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No, it's not :) While I am absolutely envious of Christian Gedge's ability to do a great visual timeline, I have a slightly different set of years that the 70-week prophecy delineates for us.


454 BC - The 70 weeks began with Artaxerxes I's decree in Nehemiah 2, during his 20th regnal year (including a co-regency period with his father Xerxes beginning in 474 BC). Jerusalem's wall was built up this year, even during "troublous times" when everyone working on repairing the breaches in the wall had to keep a sword girded on their side for defense against their enemies during the 52-day process.

AD 30 - The beginning of Christ's miraculous ministry started with His first miracle at Cana. (Christ's baptism taking place back in AD 27, with that "season" of time when Satan left Him between AD 27 and 30. The AD 30 date is proved by John 2:20 at Christ's first Passover of His ministry - "Forty-six years was this temple in building...", which was begun by Herod back in 17 BC.)

AD 33 - Christ was "cut off" by His crucifixion, and annulled the sacrifices and oblations in the middle of the AD 30-37 week

AD 37 - God in Jerusalem's temple gave Paul a commission in Acts 22:21 to go to the Gentiles as His "chosen vessel".

Herod started back in 17 BC, reference please?

Shalom
 
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So, Luke 3:1 helps to date an AD 27 baptism for Jesus, and John 2:20 at Jesus's first Passover (46 years since Herod's 17 BC temple renovations started) helps to date an AD 30 beginning of Christ miraculous ministry. In between these years is the "season" when the Devil had departed from Christ, and He was preaching in the synagogues, getting ready for the beginning of the 70th week, when He said in Mark 1:15, "The TIME is fulfilled..." It had been a three-year sort of "novitiate" period for Christ, just like the other examples of this that scripture has for positions of significant leadership.

Hi 3 Resurrections,

What is so important to push the ministry to start at 30 AD?

You claim Herod's temple renovations started 17 BC, yet in Josephus, Antiquities 15.380, the start of this project is given as the eighteenth year of Herod’s reign, whereas in War 1.401, the date is given as Herod’s fifteenth year. E. Schürer (The History of the Jewish People in the Age of Jesus Christ (175 B.C.– 135 A.D.), Vol. 1 [revised and edited by G. Vermes, F. Millar and M. Black], Edinburgh: T & T Clark, 1973, 292, n. 12) has pointed out that the rebuilding of the Temple must have begun in 20/19 BCE because we are informed in the passage from Antiquities that this event coincided with the visit of the Emperor to Syria, which took place in the spring or summer of 20 BCE, during the consulship of M. Apuleius and P. Silius, in 20 BCE (Dio 54.7.6).

19 BC + 27 AD = 46 years

Shalom
 
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I get the AD34 date from Galatians 1:15 - 2:1 and counted back seventeen years from the council of Jerusalem. (Acts 15) This locates Sauls conversion in 33 AD. and the gospel going to the Gentiles shortly after, 34 AD.
I still see no evidence that Paul actually went to the gentiles until his first missionary journey. Preaching to the synagogues in Damascus and then going to Jerusalem and to all of Judah doesn't strike me as going to the gentiles. I understand the desire to make Daniel's 70 weeks contiguous, but I just don't see the correlation. It just has the feel of looking for something that happened on that date and then trying to make it fit Daniel's prophecy. And Acts 9: 15But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel." , shows part of Paul's mission included going to the "children of Israel. How does that "end" Israel at that time?
 
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I still see no evidence that Paul actually went to the gentiles until his first missionary journey.

The gospel "going to the Gentiles" began with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Cornelius' house (Acts 10) and Paul's journeys came a little later after he had spent 3 years in Arabia. The Gentile Pentecost has always been the understanding of the Church and it can be traced back to approx AD 33/34. This date coincides with the completion of the 70th week as shown.
 
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That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
Romans 11:20‭-‬21

They have a special relationship and is described as His bride.

Shalom

What characteristics determine whether they are in relationship with God?

1. Physical DNA
2. Religion
3. Culture
4. Domicile
5. Faith and obedience
 
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What is so important to push the ministry to start at 30 AD?

It is not so much the AD 30 date itself, but the following AD 33 crucifixion date that is critical. The year for the crucifixion of Christ sits at the intersection of two separate timelines: the 70-week prophecy, and the literal thousand years of Satan's millennial binding, which ended at the "First resurrection" of Christ and the Matthew 27:52-53 saints. If the proposed year for the crucifixion does not fit correctly into BOTH of these intersecting timelines, then the wrong year is being proposed. The year that ends the millennium with Christ and that "First resurrection" has to match the middle year of the 70th week when Christ is "cut off" by His crucifixion and annuls the temple sacrifices and oblations. It's a kind of "checks and balances" thing.

As for the confusion about Herod's temple renovations, apparently it took two years to gather the materials, and to get and train the workmen for the project, which could account for the various discrepancies in the recorded dates for this renovation project.

Again, there is something else that intersects with this 17 BC startup of the Temple renovations. Herod's plans for the temple were on a mammoth, grandiose scale. "A temple of immense riches", as Tacitus called it in his "Histories". Naturally, it had to be paid for. How to pay for it? By getting it out of the public in some fashion or another.

I believe Herod devised a plan using the high priesthood to do this collecting for him. In the year 19 BC, the mint at Tyre shut down which had been producing that valuable Tyrian shekel with its pure silver content. After that, cheaper, degraded Tyrian shekel coins started coming from the east. The priesthood had become fond of the high value these purer Tyrian shekel coins had represented, and decided to beg Rome for the privilege of minting these purer Tyrian shekel coins themselves in Jerusalem for transactions conducted at the temple, in spite of the forbidden pagan images and inscriptions on those coins.

Rome as a favor to Israel decided to allow this unheard-of privilege for a subjugated nation of minting their own coinage, on the one condition that the coins minted in Jerusalem had to keep those same abominable images and inscriptions on them, including a set of initials "KP" (standing for kratos Romaion - power of the Romans). This showed that Roman authority had granted this unusual privilege. The high priesthood agreed, and required that those who paid the yearly temple tax, or who came to the temple conducting a sale or a purchase of sacrificial items, would have to exchange their foreign currency for the high priesthood-approved Tyrian shekel minted in Jerusalem. (Of course, for a fee, which profits went to the money-changers as the collection agents of the temple.

Bingo. Herod had a constant stream of revenue sucked out of the populace and any visiting worshippers from other nations coming to the temple. "Follow the money" is the usual culprit. I believe this stream of new funding going into the temple coffers from 19 BC and forward was a convenient means for Herod to pay for the impressive renovations he intended to do at the temple site, starting in...17 BC as Ussher's Annals of the World sets the date for this.
 
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So I personally don’t see any secular trend toward allowing animals to be killed in religious ceremonies. I think animal rights groups and environmentalists would condemn the practice.

Do you have any statistics or know of any polls on how many people would actually agree to legalize animal sacrifices?

The fact is the Jews are prepared for this and ready God moves and fulfills his word as He has over and over again. There are many examples of the current events having a roadblock for what God had determined and what God determined won out every time. The facts is the antichrist will be possessed by Satan and indeed he wants to stand in the temple to be worshipped as God. This is his prime objective and he knows he is defeated and yet will take as many with him and cause as much destruction as possible. Things can change in a hurry.
 
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Those who reject the lessons of Scripture and history...
...will be condemned to repeat them.

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and oppressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.
 
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Hi I will try to paint a before and after picture for you of Daniels people and Jerusalem that show the changes accomplished in the 70th week. The new covenant is in place for sure and that fulfilled the covenant with Abraham in your seed all the nations will be blessed. The idea that Jesus taught a spiritual kingdom too that being born again to enter it confuses many as that is used to close the door on the prophecies that are still on the board for national Israel, Daniels people and the holy city Jerusalem. My launching point was Luke 1 where I noted that Jesus is supposed to be the one keeping all the promises, oaths, covenants and prophecies to deliver Israel from their enemies and from that time on they worship and serve Him with out fear and now in holiness all the days of their lives. Now this is where the before and after picture for Daniels 6 things takes place at the 2nd coming and the onset of the millennium. Ill post this for now and then gather a ew of the verses the speak to this concept of before and after. I'll post that later as I have stuff to attend too.
I will cut and past some o the passages the show things in Jerusalem is changed dramatically and the Jews too and this is what Dan 9 the 6 objectives is talking about.



Isaiah 2 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
That the mountain of the LORD’s house
Shall be established on the top of the mountains,
And shall be exalted above the hills;
And all nations shall flow to it.

3 Many people shall come and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
To the house of the God of Jacob;
He will teach us His ways,
And we shall walk in His paths.”
For out of Zion shall go forth the law,
And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

4 He shall judge between the nations,
And rebuke many people;
They shall beat their swords into plowshares,
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war anymore.

This is a strong futurist passage that expresses the later days Jerusalem is where the throne of the LORD is established and the nations are flowing to it receiving His ways this is showing also the judgement of nations and world peace as the weapons are done away with. This is a quantitative permanent change.


Zech 12 “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King is coming to you;
He is just and having salvation,
Lowly and riding on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.
10. I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim
And the horse from Jerusalem;
The battle bow shall be cut off.
He shall speak peace to the nations;
His dominion shall be ‘from sea to sea,
And from the River to the ends of the earth.


Now Jesus road in on the donkey and is also here speaking peace to the nations cutting of the battle bow too. This dominion Zechariah talks about is taken in Chapter 14 when the LORD comes with HIs saints and slays the enemies and the LORD is king over all the earth. This is when that peace begins and that dominion taken. Jesus stands on the mt of Olives and this is at the 2nd coming and from then on the nations will be flowing to Jerusalem to keep the feast of tabernacle and to worship the King.

Hosea speaks of another covenant being made with those who were previously called not my people and after the judgments God speaks this latter end when He brings in peace.



6 “And it shall be, in that day,”
Says the LORD,
That you will call Me ‘My Husband,’[fn]
And no longer call Me ‘My Master,’[fn]

17 For I will take from her mouth the names of the Baals,
And they shall be remembered by their name no more.

18 In that day I will make a covenant for them
With the beasts of the field,
With the birds of the air,
And with the creeping things of the ground.
Bow and sword of battle I will shatter from the earth,
To make them lie down safely.



19 “I will betroth you to Me forever;
Yes, I will betroth you to Me
In righteousness and justice,
In lovingkindness and mercy;

20. I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness,
And you shall know the LORD.

21 “It shall come to pass in that day
That I will answer,” says the LORD;
“I will answer the heavens,
And they shall answer the earth.

22 The earth shall answer
With grain,
With new wine,
And with oil;
They shall answer Jezreel.[fn]
23 Then I will sow her for Myself in the earth,
And I will have mercy on her who had not obtained mercy;[fn]
Then I will say to those who were not My people,[fn]
‘ You are My people!’
And they shall say, ‘You are my God!’ ”

Jezreel is Armageddon and this is the day of Jezreel where not my people is clearly Israel and they are now betrothed forever. This passage is speaking of a time when the bow and battle sword are shattered from the earth.

The edicts in Luke one and Daniel 9 show that Jesus delivers from the enemies and from that time on they are holy and righteous and serving the LORD without fear. The Futurist view has Jesus doing exactly that and this is a very small sample of the passaged that all keep the same narrative.
 
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Hi Doug,

You are assuming that he is referring to the vision in Daniel 8, how do you distinguish between the visions?

He is actually referring to Daniel 2 in my view. This explains the kingdoms of Gold, silver, bronze and Iron, which is given more detail in Daniel 7 and then in 8.

Daniel 8:9 specifically refers to the might of the Greek empire and the desecration of the Temple by the Seleucid king Antiochus IV, the little horn.

The time period covered, 2,300 days, works out 6 1/3 years. The reign of the Seleucid king Antiochus IV (Epiphanes) who desecrated the temple in Jerusalem and severely persecuted the Jews from September 171 BC to December 165 BC actually can explain the prophesy.

But this will only be accepted if it does not conflict with your narrative?

When Antiochus died, the Jews purified and rededicated the temple, just as Daniel had predicted. These events are commemorated in the celebration of Hanukkah, confirmed by Jesus.

This explains the little horn in great detail and matches Daniel, but not all people will accept this, because its in conflict with their end time prophesies!

Now in Daniel 9, Daniel saw the 70 years prophesied by Jeremiah (587 BC to 517 BC) and was fasting and praying to receive insight into the restoration of Israel, quoted in verse, verse one placing it in the first year of Darius which is commonly accepted as 522 BC.

Therefore, Daniel 9 occurs +- 5 years before Temple II's re-dedication.

However in Daniel 9 we receive more detail regarding the:
  1. The complete Restoration and re-building of Jerusalem. (7 weeks)
  2. To an anointed one. (62 weeks)
  3. And a strong covenant with many for one week. (1 week)
So no Doug, CG is'nt missing why it was Gabriel who was sent to Daniel.

But simply explains how you interpret Scripture.

Shalom
Filippu, the vision of the little horn, stopping the daily sacrifice and committing the transgression of desolation is said to be time of the end in Daniel 8:17. Gabriel in verse 16 is the one who informed Daniel of that. Antiochus was not time of the end.

The transgression of desolation, the actual act, is the act of 2Thessalonians2:4 to be committed by the Antichrist (the little horn person, after he becomes the phony King of Israel coming in his own name).

The Jews at the time will be thinking the Antichrist is the messiah. But the act of claiming to have achieved God-hood will expose him as the man of sin, and not the messiah after all.

Regarding the 2300 days, the 2300 days begin when daily sacrifice is re-instituted, and end with Jesus's return. Here is my chart showing the 2300 days.




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