kissybug27 said:
Hi ! 
I'm new to this. I was looking through some of the discussions and found this one. I have very strong views on abortion. My view is that it is wrong in any case. Raped, still wrong, not the childs fault. Incest, again, not the child's fault. Harm to the mother, I have two children that I love dearly and if I ever have anymore and a doctor tells me that by carrying the child I might die, well you can bet that I would sooner give up my own life as to kill a child. In any case I believe that, as a women told me when i was younger, God can heal anything, God can do anything, if that baby is in the wrong place inside the mother He can move it, if you cant take care of the child He will send someone to comfort you. Anyway another point I want to make is is that by making abortion legal, our government has given girls and guys another form of birth control. Abortion is selfish and wrong. The bible plainly states Thou Shalt Not Kill. I believe that from the moment of conception it is a living person and has a soul. Babies are precious gifts from God and should be treated with the same respect as anyone. I love God and He loves you so therefore I love you. God Bless.
hello kissybug
i have one question with your post. if you believe "Thou Shalt Not Kill" to its fullest extent, then are you pro-death penalty, or against it? if you are for the death penalty, then does justice go outside the Ten Commandments? and what about war? of course scriptures say there will always be wars, but how are we as Christians to believe like with this war in Iraq, or whatever war that has happened?
to your other points, it's not that i disagree with them personally. it's just your using pro-choices to give life to a child, no matter what circumstances. but you have to realize that other's consciences are not like yours, and just because someone is different that doesn't mean their conscience on this matter is skewed, or sinful.
pro-choice is not a slap in the face to the child, at least i don't see how it is. i used to think that any type of abortion was bad and sinful. but i'm different now for some reason. plus with people who do agree with pro-choice in certain scenarios, it's not that they are pro-abortion. i hate abortion just as the next person does. but the situations i have mentioned are the only ways that i can abortion practical. God can do miracles, but can you tell me any point in time that a miracle is the norm for everyone? God will do miracles in this area, no matter if abortion is legal or not. God is bigger than our understanding and whatever laws we put into place, even if we think we're on the right track.
if you can tell me a way that we can get people to use sex for the right reasons, for the right timing, and if it works for everyone, then i will become a hardcore pro-life again. if you can tell me a way to stop rapes and everything else that touchs abortion, then i think it would be appropiate to be a 100 percent pro-lifer. it's just, that's not the way it is.
plus, you are using your own emotional, personal choice to make an set opinion on a topic. if i had kids, would i want to abort them? no way! if i had kids, i would want to give my life if need to be to be sure they live a full life. but what does that have anything to do with the issue of abortion? we cannot understand every situation out there based upon our emotional choices.
the fact is we live in a fallen world. God doesn't do amazing, phenomenal miralces all the time. the main point of faith is sustaining our faith through bad times, especially through a time to where an abortion may have had to be the best move for a mother. it's like with war, we live in a fallen world, and it's something we have to deal with with control. i believe abortion is the same. we have to control it. abortion is only another birth control if people use it in that manner, and i believe that if the federal government will make strict legalities to where it doesn't become like that then abortion won't be as bad as it seems.
as you i believe at the moment of conception the creation is a being. but then tell me why it's ok to go to war, or to put someone in the electric chair to die for sins he committed, when that life is being cancelled out from moving forward in the world they live in? do you think the innocent iraqis that have died to our war over there asked for that? of course not, just as any baby that had died because the mom wanted to survive the pregnancy, or because the mom was put into a rock and a hard spot because some guy raped her. but which one is right? there are negative and positive effects to every choice we make.
now please, i don't want you to think i am coming after you in opposition. i just question your reasoning that you shared for being pro-life. because making a claim that you are pro-life, because it is said, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" means you should be lined up in any other areas of life. plus, i just see that view point to be one sided, and not dealing with this fallen world, and the bad situations that come up for women that have to make that choice. that is my personal opinion, and i don't want this to be an argument between you and i, because we are brother and sister in Christ. we just have two different trains of thought on this issue. and like i said, it's not like i disagree with you, it's just, i have a hard time understanding how you, or any 100 percent pro-lifer can fit that into views of abortion.
so again, i am not coming after you and attacking your views. i am just questioning them, and i hope you feel the sense of love with my questions and to know that i am not judging you. i am just questioning your views and stating more of my own thus showing the reasons why i believe as i do. i hope that if you and i continue to talk about this, that it continues this way
God Bless you!
