Unique fossil site discovered in Wales reveals early life forms (from 462 Mya, some 50 million years later than the Burgess shale)

[dlamberth]

Unbelievers see "fakes" in every page of the Bible and every nook and cranny in the earth, don't they?

This unbeliever in Christianity, but not Christ, sees the Biblical creation story as an ancient midddle-eastern story that set for them the relationship between man and God. Today we have the wonders of science that has opened a window into the actual workings of the creation process, as God's own Creation is showing us, which includes the changes of the earth. Personally I believe what the Earth is showing us of itSelf over an ancient middle-eastern creation story and still maintain that God/Man relationship.

 

[The Barbarian]

Either it was formed by erosion (that's what the evidence shows) or God faked it to fool us.

Unbelievers see "fakes" in every page of the Bible and every nook and cranny in the earth, don't they?

Creationists aren't "unbelievers"; they just don't approve of some of the things God does.

 

[AV1611VET]

This unbeliever in Christianity, but not Christ, sees the Biblical creation story as an ancient midddle-eastern story that set for them the relationship between man and God.

That explains your problem, right there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Either it was formed by erosion (that's what the evidence shows) or God faked it to fool us.

Did the Mississippi River fool you too?

Why isn't there a grand canyon in the Midwest?

 

[dlamberth]

That explains your problem, right there.

Actually, it's been a huge blessing to be freed into God.

 

[The Barbarian]

Did the Mississippi River fool you too?

It's much more recent. Around the end of the last ice age,

Why isn't there a grand canyon in the Midwest?

That's actually a good question. No uplift of land in the Mississippi valley. Entrenched meanders only happen to old streams that have been uplifted, Want to talk about how that works?

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually, it's been a huge blessing to be freed into God.

He didn't leave a book behind called To Serve Man, did he?

 

[AV1611VET]

Want to talk about how that works?

No, thank you.

It works on paper.

That's good enough for you ... right?

 

[The Barbarian]

Only uplifted rivers form entrenched meanders. Want to talk about how that works?

No, thank you.

Too bad. It's an interesting process we see happening in a number of other rivers.

It works on paper.

Actually, it works on rivers. A matter of physics. Not hard to understand.

That's good enough for you ... right?

Reality works for me,

 

[dlamberth]

No, thank you.

It works on paper.

That's good enough for you ... right?

It works because that's what Earth itSelf is showing us.

 

[AV1611VET]

It works because that's what Earth itSelf is showing us.

No, you're not.

The earth is groaning, and you can't hear it.

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And while prophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes, people are literally looking in the dust and among the rocks for answers to questions that only God can give.

I'll take what God put in writing beforehand, before I'll take what your scribes are putting in writing today.

 

[dlamberth]

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the changing geology of the Earth and what it has to show us about itSelf.
As we've been through this already, your the one going to paper rather than what the Earth is actually showing us.

 

[AV1611VET]

That has absolutely nothing to do with the changing geology of the Earth and what it has to show us about itSelf.

Actually it does.

The Grand Canyon was created in an instant of time; not over millions of years.

As we've been through this already, your the one going to paper rather than what the Earth is actually showing us.

Two different authors though.

 

[dlamberth]

Actually it does.

The Grand Canyon was created in an instant of time; not over millions of years.

Nope, Romans 8:22 has to do with salvation. It has nothing to do with the Grand Canyon.

Two different authors though.

Agreed.
One authored the Earth and signed off with His own signature.
The other came about by ancient middle-eastern creation stories.

 

[AV1611VET]

One authored the Earth and signed off with His own signature.

Uh-huh.

And "this island earth" has been studied intently with a microscope and misinterpreted nine times out of ten.

 

[dlamberth]

Uh-huh.

And "this island earth" has been studied intently with a microscope and misinterpreted nine times out of ten.

Well, our home is of interest to us. We like to know what makes her tick. We live here after all. So we study the Earth to see what she can show us of her self. The more we learn about the Earth, the more refined our knowledge is of the Earth and able to correct those misinterpretations.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, our home is of interest to us.

I guess it depends where your focus is, doesn't it?

 

[Estrid]

Actually, it's been a huge blessing to be freed into God.

Could you move your science threads to a section
where we can discuss like data, discoveries, ideas
without constant interruption with unrelated topics?

 

[Occams Barber]

Could you move your science threads to a section
where we can discuss like data, discoveries, ideas
without constant interruption with unrelated topics?

@dlamberth's OP is in the correct Forum. He's been caught up in Creationist arguments (as we all have)_which don't belong here.

This is an excerpt from the Statement of Purpose for the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

The Physical & Life Sciences forum is a discussion and debate area on physics, biology, chemistry and other physical sciences. Other physical sciences may include but is not limited to astronomy, earth science, archaeology, climate change, ecology, geology, oceanography and energy.​

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Physical Sciences address the nature and properties of non-living systems while life sciences address the nature and properties of living matter. This may include the way two or more of these have an effect on each other between observation, theory, deduction and application...​

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...Threads started, or responses made, to simply disparage science will be considered off topic to the forum.​

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Creation and Evolution discussions are off topic to this main forum, and should be started in the sub-forum, Creation & Evolution.​

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Basically the Forum is designed as a place to discuss science in a science context. There are at least two other Forums where Creation/Evolution discussions are legit.

Unfortunately, there are posters who insist on repeatedly introducing the same Biblical/Creationist arguments into this Forum, drawing the thread off topic and outside of its purpose.

I am not in the habit of reporting posters for rule infringements, however I am getting a little tired of seeing every science related post turned into the same argument about Creationism.

OB

 

[sjastro]

Unfortunately, there are posters who insist on repeatedly introducing the same Biblical/Creationist arguments into this Forum, drawing the thread off topic and outside of its purpose.

I am not in the habit of reporting posters for rule infringements, however I am getting a little tired of seeing every science related post turned into the same argument about Creationism.

I have decided to start reporting posts that are steered towards creationism in this forum as there is one individual in particular who thinks he is above the rules.