In the earth are signs for an assured faith

[Zoness]

I find that if I have to read a wall of text, I will also be talking with a brick wall. So, no, I don't read that.


eudaimonia,

Mark

This is my attitude regardless of the subject matter.

To OP, how about a condensed explanation?

 

[pgp_protector]

I find that if I have to read a wall of text, I will also be talking with a brick wall. So, no, I don't read that.


eudaimonia,

Mark

That's sig worthy (If I was up to modifying my Sig)

 

[Booko]

No. Good formatting is what separates us from the beasts, after all

What is your theological position on Comic Sans?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Lucida Bright is the way, the truth and the life.



(And Firefox is easily convinced of that too.)

 

[Booko]

Lucida Bright is the way, the truth and the life.

Wingdings are Satanic!

(And Firefox is easily convinced of that too.)

I must have a well-tamed Firefox.

 

[Eudaimonist]

This reminds me of my husband's grandfather the nuclear physicist (and RCC, btw) who said anyone who understood physics surely must see the hand of God involved.

While where I'm sitting now I can understand that, it doesn't work too well for atheists as proof though.

It's pretty terrible, actually.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Booko]

It's pretty terrible, actually.

Don't I know it!

It's why you will never see me suggest to an atheist that the awesomeness of the Universe is proof of the existence for something that Created it. At best it's pointless. And I think "annoying" or "boring" are terms that might be applied.

Obviously dh's grandfather was never an atheist himself.

 

[razeontherock]

What is your theological position on Comic Sans?

I think we should never be without comics

Theologically speaking:

(Proverbs 17:22) A merry heart doeth good [like] a medicine"

 

[Booko]

I think we should never be without comics

Theologically speaking:

(Proverbs 17:22) A merry heart doeth good [like] a medicine"

This theology I can definitely agree with!

 

[razeontherock]

Long live ecunemiczysm (and all that)

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Deposited by many signs of God in this land and he brought us to discover and are growing in faith and certainty that the great Creator, and to be a means through which we see the power of God to be one of certitude ....

Allah the Almighty says in the Koran mentioned: ((20) And on the earth are signs for the certain [in faith
(21) And in yourselves. Then will you not see
(22) And in the heaven is your provision and whatever you are promised
(23) Then by the Lord of the heaven and earth, indeed, it is truth - just as [sure as] it is that you are speaking) [Almariaat: 20-23]. These verses tell us where the great Almighty for His signs in the ground and in the souls, the land that God created us, created by more suitable for life. If the planet which we live is up to about a hundred and fifty million kilometers from the sun, if it were a little further from such a distance from the sun to life on the frozen ground, even if also a little closer to the sun burned creatures on earth.

God the Almighty to make this earth in its orbit the correct and appropriate for life,
scientists say, and I quote:
This land placed in the proper orbit, and viable, but otherwise did not appear life on her back at all.

This is a sign of God, the Almighty respond to those who say that the universe arose by chance, since the accident could not occur in this way, can not accidentally put the Earth in particular at this distance minutes from the sun and make it spin the movement proper, because the land if it were faster than it is now to shoot creatures into outer space, you can not appeal to maintain stability for the people, and so Blessed and Almighty said: ((64) It is Allah who made for you the earth a place of settlement and the sky a ceiling and formed you and perfected your forms and provided you with good things. That is Allah, your Lord; then blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds) [forgiving: 64].

If this land had been slow to spin, what happened? We know that the earth's rotation around itself in the face of the sun creates night and day, if the ground is slower than it is today, to spread the night long, perhaps for months or years and extended day long as well, but the Almighty God who made the night a covering for the day and a pension make the length of the earth's rotation around the itself is up to 24 hours, and this period is suitable for the composition of the human body, man can not sleep more than 7 or 8 or 9 hours, so the Almighty God made the night, and make the day, duration suitable for the size and the age and the movement of this man, and this is a blessing of God Almighty bless the many and which he said: ((34) And He gave you from all you asked of Him. And if you should count the favor of Allah, you could not enumerate them. Indeed, mankind is [generally] most unjust and ungrateful ) [Ibrahim: 34]. This is the human condition .. Always unfair to himself and atone yes, the Almighty God that He hath bestowed on it.

He ordered us to look at and think about these figures and these facts, the Almighty said: ((17) Then do they not look at the camels - how they are created
(18) And at the sky - how it is raised
(19) And at the mountains - how they are erected
(20) And at the earth - how it is spread out) [Gash 17-20], and scientists today when they went to other planets, and discovered the truth of these planets, they found that the earth is the only planet that if I stood on the back does not feel any curvature or any malfunction, but you see flat and paved and strewn in front of you, so the Almighty said: ((48) And the earth We have spread out, and excellent is the preparer) [Almariaat: 48].

Land created by the Almighty God to us, in order to fit our lives as it makes us more stable on her back, and reminded us of this blessing, and that God Almighty is the BUD us and make a decision: ((64) It is Allah who made for you the earth a place of settlement and the sky a ceiling and formed you and perfected your forms and provided you with good things. That is Allah, your Lord; then blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds) [forgiving: 64].

If we look at images from satellites, as well as images drawn by the scientists note that this land is not a single block, but is divided into a set of panels and the fault is shared, and winding and divides the earth's crust to a group of panels, and the Almighty said: ((12) And [by] the earth which cracks open,) [Tariq: 12], and this feature is not a science at that time, the time of the descent of the Koran. We see in this picture the rift is located in Ethiopia, which extends for thousands of kilometers.

He saw finally this human fault and images and pictures of his movement as well, and pictures of the movement of these plates are moving apart from each other, in the year 2005, some scientists to monitor the rift that separates the board the Arab, which includes the Arabian Peninsula and the Red Sea and so on, for the board of Africa, which includes the continent of Africa, where Ethiopia area (there is a clear split), and the image of scientists conducted experiments and found that the board away from the board the African Arab, and found that there is a group of lava flow during the divergence of these two panels, and this lava freeze and form some types of rocks.
This is what he talked about the Koran but I swear that the land and have the advantage is of a crack, the Almighty says: ((11) By the sky which returns [rain]
(12) And [by] the earth which cracks open,
(13) Indeed, the Qur'an is a decisive statement,
(14) And it is not amusement.) [Tariq: 11-14],

Here we remember to tell the truth, the Almighty for the movement of the mountains: ((88) And you see the mountains, thinking them rigid, while they will pass as the passing of clouds. [It is] the work of Allah, who perfected all things. Indeed, He is Acquainted with that which you do) [ant: 88].

Andreas fault, which extends for more than 1300 kilometers, and we note clearly the distance that divides the two sheets terrestrial, these newly captured images was not aware of them reduce the time of revelation of the Qur'an, how mentioned in the Koran?! The only logical explanation is that the Qur'an came down with the knowledge of God!

, And the more down on a layer, we find that this beam is reflected from each layer drops it, They observed that the number of layers of the Earth is seven layers, and this latest result reached by the scientists at the Agency of Geology of America, the agency of course is the source of very reliable information exactly parallel to the NASA space.
Here, perhaps admire if we know that the Qur'an told us about it 14 centuries ago, and select for us the number of these classes, Allah the Almighty says: (God, who created the seven heavens and the earth lesbian) In another verse says: ((3) [And] who created seven heavens in layers. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return [your] vision [to the sky]; do you see any breaks) [the king] 3 layers on each other, (and of the earth like them ) any such classes of the seven, (descends it among them to know) and see the wisdom and purpose of these seven layers: ((12) It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge) [divorce: 12].

Imagine with me the molten lava that throw the earth guardian which is a molten rocks!! Imagine if a person thought just thinking penetrate the earth! The scientists have not come down into the ground, and they can not originally intended to reach because of the intense pressures and temperatures of up to thousands of degrees centigrade, which smelted any material no matter how powerful, so they can never penetrate the countries of the ground or carry through it, and that's what told us about the Quran , Blessed and Almighty said: ((33) O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah]) [Rahman: 33].

God, the Almighty told that this land can not be one that goes through it, and here perhaps we see a reference wonderful to layers of the earth and to the difference in diameters, in the words of the Almighty: (O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth) did not say "Qatar" One even said (countries) and of course each layer of these layers have a diameter different from the other, if you are the layers on each other, and each layer there is Qatar.

The aim of this finding
Now to wonder: Why did Allah Almighty bless this universal truth in his book: Is it just to see what the global information? Or just a love of knowledge? Or is there a great goal? Consider the verse again: (It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know) Consider me the word of what Allaah has seven layers and told us about: ( that Allah is over all things competent), O man - you atheist - you dopey from the remembrance of Allah, the Almighty - The Almighty God embrace all layers of the earth seven and tell you that the heavens seven also and you now see yourself these seven layers and He knows the secret and hidden, just as God, the Almighty narrated about something you do not see your eyes No one can see, but the devices measured by you, also, God knows all your business, and it took everything note: (that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge)

Who is this Allah dude, and why does he want to encompass me? I mean, he's like, "I'm allah up in yo' grill man."

 

[razeontherock]

Who is this Allah dude, and why does he want to encompass me? I mean, he's like, "I'm allah up in yo' grill man."

Is that the Sunset Grill?

Don Henley - Sunset Grill (Live in Japan) - YouTube

 

[amorly]

In the beginning
Anything in this world
Each cause, the reason behind it. Mafany universe and is the cause and it should be no reason for the existence of all things.
Such as
- The chair is made by carpenter
The chair is not set up its own
- The wedding dress
Consists not alone
There Sewing
And so on
The same story with Adam peace be upon him first of creation and the first humans
Adam did not create the same
he was not his father-mother
Where did he came?
It is here
Make sure that God the Almighty Creator of all things

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
saw allah
But light - the light
No one can see God in this world
God says in the Holy Qur'an

(1) By the star when it descends
(2) Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred
(3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination
(4) It is not but a revelation revealed
(5) Taught to him by one intense in strength
(6) One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true for
(7) While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon
(8) Then he approached and descende
(9) And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer
(10) And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed
(11) The heart did not lie [about] what it saw
(12) So will you dispute with him over what he saw
(13) And he certainly saw him in another descen
(14) At the Lote Tree of the Utmost Boundary
(15) Near it is the Garden of Refuge
(16) When there covered the Lote Tree that which covered [it]
(17) The sight [of the Prophet] did not swerve, nor did it transgress [its limit]
(18) He certainly saw of the greatest signs of his Lord

Prophet Moses, peace be upon him
also wanted to see
allah
(143) And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [ Allah ] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."


In the Holy Qur'an

A story about Abraham peace be upon him with Alnmarwd
Alnmarwd people argue and deny the existence of God
Look
Nimrod governor of Babylon and King of Assyria, who is mentioned in the Quran
Nimrod has entered a fly in the nose stayed with it a long time tormented by God in the world
Palmrazib hitting his head in all these years even by God Ohlkh penalty ingratitude and kufr and his claim of divinity, and has immortality in the afterlife in eternal fire.

(258) Have you not considered the one who argued with Abraham about his Lord [merely] because Allah had given him kingship? When Abraham said, "My Lord is the one who gives life and causes death," he said, "I give life and cause death." Abraham said, "Indeed, Allah brings up the sun from the east, so bring it up from the west." So the disbeliever was overwhelmed [by astonishment], and Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

Knowledge of right and wrong. Murder, theft, lying, cheating all immoral traits agreed in all the country. Where did this knowledge of right and wrong that were of a holy God?

 

[SanFrank]

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- Example
- You remember me
Abraham peace be upon him
allah said In the Holy Qur'an​

(74) And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said to his father Azar, "Do you take idols as deities? Indeed, I see you and your people to be in manifest error." Add new comment
(75) And thus did We show Abraham the realm of the heavens and the earth that he would be among the certain [in faith] Add new comment
(76) So when the night covered him [with darkness], he saw a star. He said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "I like not those that disappear." Add new comment
(77) And when he saw the moon rising, he said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "Unless my Lord guides me, I will surely be among the people gone astray." Add new comment
(78) And when he saw the sun rising, he said, "This is my lord; this is greater." But when it set, he said, "O my people, indeed I am free from what you associate with Allah . Add new comment
(79) Indeed, I have turned my face toward He who created the heavens and the earth, inclining toward truth, and I am not of those who associate others with Allah ." Add new comment

I'm more confused now than I was before this thread.

 

[Booko]

Is that the Sunset Grill?

And I was hoping for a Hibachi Grill.

 

[razeontherock]

Yeah but the George Foreman grill is the way to lose weight!

 

[Booko]

I'm more confused now than I was before this thread.

Yeah, I think translation software isn't quite as good as we'd all like yet.

 

[razeontherock]

Yeah, I think translation software isn't quite as good as we'd all like yet.

"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." (Hebrews 11:5)

Oh, the miracles of modern science!

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Wingdings are Satanic!



I must have a well-tamed Firefox.

Why well-tamed?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." (Hebrews 11:5)

Oh, the miracles of modern science!

Does that mean that Enoch was lost in translation?