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eleos1954

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Sin existed before the law. Re-define please
The law has always been ..... the first sin was committed by lucifer and the 1/3 angels in heaven.

Judgement ..... there can't be judgement unless there is a standard (law).

to judge judiciously, to bring to trial, to be brought to account, to administer government over
 
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Yes I suppose I should have said the law in the OT everyone rants about

Matthew 5:18​

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

What law is still in place?

Romans 2 BSB
 
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Yes I suppose I should have said the law in the OT everyone rants about
Matthew 5:17–19

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished”.
 
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Matthew 5:17–19

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished”.
Of course not. The Law is God's will before man's. His will is we not pursue self interest which put our will before His in the first place, but care for all as we would hope to be cared for in times of need. His Kingdom will come and His will will be done in earth, not ours. Some don't like the idea including many church governments as their reign will be over.

Matthew 23: 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
 
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