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When people fail they look for someone or something to blame. It's the same regardless of color. A white supremacist will see blacks as the reason and a BLM member sees whites as the reason. A Nascar driver on the other hand will see a pull rope for the garage door as his reason ( sorry but that story was hilarious).


We have never lived in a better time for everyone to prosper yet some still haven't found happiness. Those that are poor think money should be the goal yet there are plenty of rich people who are miserable and acting out. The farther society gets away from God the worse they feel. I don't know why they can't see it. We were all meant to function together as a team and worship the creator.
That would make more sense if there wasn't a history of racism (i.e. slavery and second class citizenship up to 50 years ago).

If your argument is that American has totally left this behind, ... then I would have to ask .. "WHEN did this occur ?"

My view, as an African American ... is that we STILL have a ways to go.

And I have been surprised and gratified to find, from events in recent days, ... that MOST Americans agree with me in this regard ...
 
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I wouldn't debase myself for anyone. Let alone someone having a tirade about a meal. Some people are ignorant. You can't accommodate their behavior by being obsequious. Accusations are never a reason to bow the knee. Allegations must be proven.

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The only time I saw here before then was when she was a ways away from the counter as if she was shopping for other goods or waiting for someone to come into the store. She immediately pulled out the race card and accused me of being prejudice. I told her that I know that there are difficult times right now, that I'm not prejudice, and that I forgave her for the accusation. She told me that isn't what it looked like. I served her and told her that since she had to wait so long that I was going to give her, her food for free. She told me that, that wasn't necessary. I gave her, her food, assured her that I didn't see her and that I wasn't being prejudice, forgave her and, wished her a good evening. She still continued to say that it didn't look that way to her.

OK here's the thing. Every human being on the earth is watched by God as to whether they'll lean towards being merciful and giving people the benefit of the doubt and choose to believe the best of people and not the worse. If we embrace without hesitation and have a tendency to choose the negative about people we've been hard hearted. The danger of doing so is that we put ourselves in a place where God will judge us the same way. Matt 7:1, Matt 18:27

From what you described I think she should have given you the benefit of the doubt and accepted your explanation as potentially valid. You gave her enough information to show that it was. Her best response might have been, "Ok fair enough" and smile. We all however can have a bad day where we yield to being not as restrained as we should. If it becomes a continual pattern though we're not doing themselves a favor for reasons in the scripture above. We can only hope this individual won't be quick to think the worse of people. It doesn't lead to a peaceful life.
 
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That would make more sense if there wasn't a history of racism (i.e. slavery and second class citizenship up to 50 years ago).

If your argument is that American has totally left this behind, ... then I would have to ask .. "WHEN did this occur ?"

My view, as an African American ... is that we STILL have a ways to go.

And I have been surprised and gratified to find, from events in recent days, ... that MOST Americans agree with me in this regard ...

How far back in history should we go to determine who the bad guys are? There are places that are active in the slave trade right now and nobody seems to care. No outrage anyway. You mentioned slavery yet we still do business with the country that sold those slaves. Aren't those that sold equally as bad as those that owned? I think they are. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I wouldn't debase myself for anyone. Let alone someone having a tirade about a meal. Some people are ignorant. You can't accommodate their behavior by being obsequious. Accusations are never a reason to bow the knee. Allegations must be proven.

I would however respond in a most kind way that no I really didn't do that on purpose and say I'm sorry you felt that way. I wouldn't respond with any anger.
 
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I would however respond in a most kind way that no I really didn't do that on purpose and say I'm sorry you felt that way. I wouldn't respond with any anger.

There's no need to match the customer's anger. But accusation doesn't mean you become a sycophant! No one should quake in fear because someone accuses them of being racist or prejudiced.

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It seems to me that the "high point" was the election of Barack Obama. Things seemed to go downhill once he took office.
I agree. When he was running in 2008 I got the most racist emails forwarded to me from Republican friends. Things like Obama as a monkey and Obama with big ears eating watermelon, etc. nevermind the words that went with emails like that. Plenty of racists were revealed to me.
 
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The removal of Donald Trump from the presidency

Trump stands for all of America, and has done more for black Americans in this country than Obama ever did.

Stop listening to the hate mongering media whose trying to control you.
 
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Which country would that be?

First it was Europe with the poor whites being taken from the streets then somewhere in Africa. I'm not a historian so I would have to look up the country. Point was where does it all end with the blame? We should be focusing on equality not separation. I look at a man and see his actions not his skin color and I expect to be seen based on my actions not past generations.
 
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First it was Europe with the poor whites being taken from the streets then somewhere in Africa. I'm not a historian so I would have to look up the country. Point was where does it all end with the blame? We should be focusing on equality not separation. I look at a man and see his actions not his skin color and I expect to be seen based on my actions not past generations.
If you can't name the country how do you know we are doing business with them?
 
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It saddens me to see what is being done to our country. The Left has driven race consciousness into us non-stop, so we are hypersensitized toward it. Now everything that happens, however innocent the intention behind it, is scrutinized according to a racialist grid. The results are predicable and ugly. After decades of this process our race relations are at an all-time low. And that not being enough, the same destructive spirit is being turned against our national heritage. This is cultural marxism, with the goal of causing anarchy and chaos leading to a new global order based on godless humanism. They even march under the banner, "become ungovernable".

My prayers for you, that you do not take what happened personally. May the Lord comfort and strengthen you.
 
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Trump stands for all of America, and has done more for black Americans in this country than Obama ever did.

Stop listening to the hate mongering media whose trying to control you.
I was an active citizen here (in America) ... BEFORE what we call the media today even existed ...
 
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If you can't name the country how do you know we are doing business with them?

Since they came from several different areas and we still do business with Africa its a safe assumption. Nobody is calling for a boycott against Africans so obviously nobody cares. Myself I would also be upset with those that sold my family into slavery. That's just me though.
 
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It saddens me to see what is being done to our country. The Left has driven race consciousness into us non-stop, so we are hypersensitized toward it. Now everything that happens, however innocent the intention behind it, is scrutinized according to a racialist grid. The results are predicable and ugly. After decades of this process our race relations are at an all-time low. And that not being enough, the same destructive spirit is being turned against our national heritage. This is cultural marxism, with the goal of causing anarchy and chaos leading to a new global order based on godless humanism. They even march under the banner, "become ungovernable".

My prayers for you, that you do not take what happened personally. May the Lord comfort and strengthen you.

I try to rise above it. It's hard though especially after watching the incident before this where a black guy came forward and said he put the rope in the tree as a swing and the mayor said she didn't care and still treated it as a hate crime. Now it's being directed at churches and Christians but we all knew this day would come.
 
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How far back in history should we go to determine who the bad guys are? There are places that are active in the slave trade right now and nobody seems to care. No outrage anyway. You mentioned slavery yet we still do business with the country that sold those slaves. Aren't those that sold equally as bad as those that owned? I think they are. Maybe I'm wrong.
Why should I go any further than the history of the country of which I am a citizen ? Especially one which trumpets equality, ... but is still in the process of achieving that goal ?

As an American citizen, I have little leverage over what happens in the rest of the world, and I don't think that we can even identify those who "sold" the enslaved way back when ...
 
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Myself I would also be upset with those that sold my family into slavery. That's just me though.
And you assume that they aren't? Why do you think that they wanted Columbus' statue taken down? Was it because he was a slave trader when he captured indigenous people and took them to Spain where they ended up as slaves, at least those who didn't die on the trip over?
 
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Since they came from several different areas and we still do business with Africa its a safe assumption. Nobody is calling for a boycott against Africans so obviously nobody cares. Myself I would also be upset with those that sold my family into slavery. That's just me though.
The US does not do business with countries that participate in overt human rights abuses (good thing), so I don't think that this a concern.

At the same time, it doesn't seem reasonable to blame an entire continent for the actions of a few some centuries ago ...
 
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Why should I go any further than the history of the country of which I am a citizen ? Especially one which trumpets equality, ... but is still in the process of achieving that goal ?

As an American citizen, I have little leverage over what happens in the rest of the world, and I don't think that we can even identify those who "sold" the enslaved way back when ...

I don't care how far back anyone goes. Slavery keeps getting brought up by those that didn't experience it and blaming those that had no hand in it. If I'm to be judged for the sins of the father so should they. Equality is just that. I don't see anyone actually wanting equality they want vengeance for something that they didn't experience.
 
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First it was Europe with the poor whites being taken from the streets
And this is inaccurate as well.
The indentured servants were not taken from the streets. Many of them were languishing in Debtor's prisons. The more wealthy paid off their debt in return for the debtor's labor for a set number of years in America. None were taken against their will.
 
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