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I'm Conan and i'd like to discuss religion as i am a non-believer..

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by LostConan, Dec 23, 2017.

  1. LostConan

    LostConan New Member

    United Kingdom
    i was born into a christian family (catholic) but some were protestant. after a while i started to question the religion and found a lot of holes. if any would like to discuss with me i would enjoy that.
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  2. 2PhiloVoid

    2PhiloVoid Why do I feel like I've been Kahned? Supporter

    United States
    Welcome to CF, LostConan! I'm sure a number of us here will be glad to discuss those things that bother you about the Christian faith.

    To get started, you might go to the "Exploring Christianity" section and create a thread where one or two of your questions can be addressed.

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  3. St_Worm2

    St_Worm2 Member Supporter

    United States
    Hi LostConon, WELCOME TO CF .. :wave: I agree with 2Philo, while you can begin discussions here on the intro board, a better place by far would be starting a new thread on the Exploring Christianity boards (as the mods will no doubt move this thread to the proper board if discussions here end up going much beyond introductions take off).

    Yours and His,
  4. Tigger45

    Tigger45 Jesus the Christ Supporter

    United States
    Welcome to CF Conan!
  5. Serving Zion

    Serving Zion Seek First His Kingdom & Righteousness

    Welcome to CF, Conan! .. I wrote a lot of response to you, as I had wanted to help you :)

    Then I noticed the rules here are that we simply say hello to be friendly, and that way we keep long discussions in the right categories!

    (Thankfully I can edit my post and add this little spoiler button so it doesn't become too distracting).

    .. Looking forward to chatting with you over in the Exploring Christianity area :)
    I would like to see the way you think, whether we cannot establish that you do belong on side with Jesus. It is easy to pick up a wrong idea and upon that error, keep building until it gives way and the whole structure collapses, we end up with a pile of rubble.

    St. Paul speaks of this sort of thing happening in 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, where different builders use different materials and different degrees of skill. Yet, God's fire is to consume all worthlessness and to purify what remains.

    The English language is an inescapable complication for us, because the original meaning of the scriptures cannot be directly translated to English with the fullness of meaning. Different translations introduce slightly different aspects of the original message, that combine to produce a fuller appreciation for the original message (www.biblehub.com is very good for studying this way).

    There is good news for you in this though! That pile of rubble that you have, it isn't all wasted and it's actually very valuable. It's not necessarily a difficult thing to reconstruct either, depending upon the builder's skill and your willingness to rebuild it. It can be as simple as opening a door and stepping into God's refining fire (Revelation 3:20, John 14:21, John 15:3), but in order to do that, you need to be led to that door and you need to be able to trust God when you get there. This is where your wisdom needs to overcome your flesh so that you perceive the workings of the spirits, such as explained by John 13:35 (1 Corinthians 13:4-7), Matthew 7:15-16, 1 John 4:1-6, John 7:18, Philippians 2:12-13.

    As soon as a person makes that decision to trust Him and to step into the light (John 3:19-21), the worthlessness melts away and what is left is only the components of the building that are solid and valuable - and we instantly find that it is already a building, no longer a pile of rubble!

    This is because although I used a metaphor to begin with that it crumbled and became a pile of rubble, actually it didn't crumble at all. A more accurate metaphor to explain what has really happened, is that somewhere along the way, you have received a false idea (don't be surprised by this: 2 Peter 2:1-2), but then life has somehow convinced you (Genesis 3:1) to see that idea as being false, but also to still think that it is an idea that belongs to Christianity instead of being an apostate doctrine (this is a danger for all organised religion). In your disgust at the absurdity of Christianity, you have progressed to find criticism against other pieces of the structure, and after having formed that mindset for some time, it has become your reality. (I speak from experience - though from having a Christian upbringing without Catholicism).

    The act of recognising where your discourse has begun, letting go of it and then re-accepting the parts of value, is called "repentance". You could find that there is more than one false idea that you'll need to purify in your faith too. The main thing that happens at that moment, is that you stop resisting God and you begin following Him, because that switch has been flicked back into the right direction and He will keep leading you through the refining fire (Jeremiah 9:6-7, Isaiah 6:13, Malachi 3:1-6) :)

    .. So, if you catch my drift and you'd like to see where we might end up by talking, let's talk! I'd like to find out what your main hang-ups are, what parts make Christianity seem so unlike what Christ came to establish?
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2017
  6. “Paisios”

    “Paisios” Sinner Supporter

    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    Welcome to the forums. I hope you find answers to your questions, and increase our understanding of why some choose not to believe.
  7. John Goodness

    John Goodness Member Supporter

    United States
    Welcome to these forums. Hope you'll be involved in some meaningful discussions here; to inform and be informed. I'm a former atheist during my high school and university dayd who surrendered myself to the Lordship of Christ in 2002.
  8. Shadow

    Shadow Active Member Supporter

    United Kingdom
    Welcome to Christian Forums Conan. I hope you enjoy your time here and that your questions will be answered. :)
  9. Little Lantern

    Little Lantern Be encouraged! Christ has overcome the world! Supporter

    United States
    Greetings, and welcome to CF, @LostConan. May you find godly encouragement, warm fellowship, and engaging discussion here. God bless you in your search for truth.