Svt4Him said:
How untrue, and how idealistic. I think if we asked people here if they've ever thought it would be easier to die, quite a few would nod, that doesn't make them less Christian.
Just before I became a Christian, I was thinking how easy it would be to take my own life. I thought how all of my troubles would be over and the depression I was going through would be gone. But after I was saved, I no longer thought about suicide. I'm glad that Jesus took all of that away.
God has given us this life. We did not choose this life, but God gave us this precious gift. As Christians, we are not to live according to our own will, but to God's will. I don't believe that it is God's will for us to take our own life. If we do take our own life, then we are doing it out of our own will. This is one reason why suicide is a selfish sin.
I truly believe that if Jesus abides in you, then He will take things such as suicide out of your heart. Why in the world would He keep it in your heart? If it's in our hearts, then that's because we choose to keep it there. We choose to think about it rather than cast it away, or ask Jesus to cleanse our hearts. It's not Jesus' fault it's in our hearts...it's our own fault.
It's like a drug addict who is addicted to drugs. He decides to get saved. However, he is still addicted to the drugs and continues to use them after saying the salvation prayer. Nobody is making him take the drugs. He's addicted to them. He is choosing to continue to take them. I don't believe someone can serve two masters. It's either one or the other. Now replace the drug addict in the story above with the suicidal person. Now the suicidal person continues to think of suicide after becoming saved. He's addicted to thinking about suicide. How can this person serve two masters? Addictions are strongholds. They are not easy to get over. But with the help of Jesus, addictions can be broken.
If anybody in this world should have committed suicide, it should have been Job. We all know the story of Job's life. He lost everything he had. But what did he choose to do when problems came his way? Did he choose to think about these problems to the point of thinking about suicide?: No. He always prayed to God. And God took away his problems and blessed him.
Satan was allowed to bring these problems on Job. God was going to prove to satan that Job was
His servant. Could you imagine if the story ended like this "and due to the problems that Job suffered, he took his own life." Do you think that Job would have been God's servant if he would have committed suicide? Or, do you think that Job would have been satan's servant if he would have have committed suicide? What do you think satan's reaction would have been to God if Job took his own life? Do you think satan would have been happy that Job took his own life? If Job went to heaven, then satan should not be happy.
Svt4Him said:
You are basically saying it's not what's in someone's heart that makes them Christian, it's what they do.
If someone commits suicide, then it's clear what was in their heart. If suicide is not wrong and we will still go to heaven if we commit suicide, then wouldn't it make sense that all Christians should take their own lives so they can get to heaven quicker without having to worry about this life?