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If you commit suicide do you go to heaven?

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BlessedBeliever, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. May the blessings of Christ be upon you and may His love comfort you and your family.

Suicide is a selfish act, like any other sin of the flesh. However, I will not be one to even speculate whether this act would send someone to Hell for eternity. To give an opinion on this matter seemingly makes one a judge over what God will decide to do with your friend.

God's will was not for us to end what He has given us. However, I am a believer in the fact that everything, good or bad, is done for His purposes. I believe He is in complete control. How many may come to know Christ as a direct result of this action? Dunno if any will... but I see painful events everyday turning the hearts and minds of people to Christ. His will be done.

My prayers and thoughts are with you, BlessedBeliever.

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Svt4Him said:
How untrue, and how idealistic. I think if we asked people here if they've ever thought it would be easier to die, quite a few would nod, that doesn't make them less Christian. To be Christian is to know Jesus, what He did, how He took our sins, how He is God who came to earth lived a sinless life, then died for us. After three days He rose again and becomes our defense against sins. You are basically saying it's not what's in someone's heart that makes them Christian, it's what they do. IF she was saved Then SHE WOULD...Sorry, my Bible says otherwise.

So suicide is murder. Then smoking is murder, as smoking is slow suicide. Driving too fast can be murder, and if you're unlucky and get into a fatal accident you go to hell. (by the way, a salesman tried to pass a vehicle, clipped him, didn't go off the road and didn't lose control, but died when their airbag went off, check out www.worksafebc.com for more info) and passing is murder. Let's add lack of exercise to our list of murder, then we can add laws with how we should clean ourselves before we eat, because cleanliness is next to Godliness. Does this kind of sound like some people Jesus had a hard time with?


So are you saying that if i take my life and i am saved then i will go to heaven. that does not even make since. first heaven is a holy place. full of joy peace, life not death. so why would the holy God of this earth let someone in that took something that he gave us which is life away. and then say oh come on in and sup with me. that is insane thinking and its a lie from hell to think that we can go to heaven and live with God forever. God has to be feared.
 
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fifi said:
So are you saying that if i take my life and i am saved then i will go to heaven.

No, I'm saying if you are saved you will go to heaven.

that does not even make since. first heaven is a holy place. full of joy peace, life not death.

No, God is holy. If you believe there can be no sin in heaven, let me ask where God goes when satan comes and talks to Him?

That fallacy aside, how do you get that someone going to heaven who is saved is full of death, is the fact they are dead different than the fact that every other human who is there has died as well?

so why would the holy God of this earth let someone in that took something that he gave us which is life away. and then say oh come on in and sup with me. that is insane thinking and its a lie from hell to think that we can go to heaven and live with God forever. God has to be feared.

Because of what Jesus did. Unless you think there is something you are doing, or your actions are so "good" that you deserve to be there more than anyone else. If so, I'm curious as to what you do to keep your salvation or what great deeds you've done to earn it in the first place. That's insane thinking IMO, and a lie from the heart of a person.
 
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fifi said:
thats not true if her friend was saved their would be know reason for her to take her life.
I'm saved, so there is no reason for me to sin. And yet I do it anyway. Suicide is a sin like any other, at least in this respect.
 
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Suicide is not addressed in the Bible, so if it's a sin to you, don't do it. But preach the word, live your convictions. To say all killing is murder is calling God a murderer. To call God a murderer calls God a sinner, which also makes Him a liar. Then God has created an image of Himself that is not true, therefore requires us to worship this idol. Fear God true, but don't make God into something He's not...so I'd be careful to go down the line of suicide is murder.



PS just try and find a fallacy in that post...;)
 
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BlessedBeliever said:
I have been asking friends and family this question and also trying to do some research on it and get mixed answers.

I ask this because a friend of Mine whom I was very close with in high school committed suicide on Easter Sunday.. If you know of any answers to this please let me know and thanks!

DO NOT LISTEN TO MANKIND......LISTEN TO THE WORD....THESE ARE "PROMISES" FROM GOD!!!

Once you become a believer ( or anyone) you will "NEVER" lose your salvation.....EVER. We are in union with Chrict, in the royal family, adopted.


John 6:36-40
"But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do "not" believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will "never" drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."


romans 8:38-39
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, (MAN with their false doctrines) shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Imputed Everlasting Life.....John 5: 11-12

Royal Adoption.....Rom 8: 15, Rom 8: 23

Eternal Relationship to God.....Eph 2: 13, James 4: 8, Heb 10: 25

Royal Priesthood.....Peter 2: 5, Peter 2: 9, Rev 1: 6

We Become Heavenly Citizens.....Eph 2: 19, Phill 3: 20-21.

We Become Members of the Royal Family of God....Eph 2: 19, Eph 3: 5, Gal 6: 10

Believe in these....do not believe what man say's, for they themselves will not claim these promises. NEVER EVER FEAR!!
 
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BlessedBeliever said:
I have been asking friends and family this question and also trying to do some research on it and get mixed answers.

I ask this because a friend of Mine whom I was very close with in high school committed suicide on Easter Sunday.. If you know of any answers to this please let me know and thanks!

Ay, Blessedbeliever,

A sister in the Lord committed suicide and everyone was talking about whether or not the Lord let's us in if we do it. I just laughed, mainly cause I knew her and I also know what the bible says about the gift of eternal life; it can neither be earned or lost; for Jesus will not allow anyone to pluck us out of God's hands. I know that she is comforted in the presence of the Lord as we speak. Safe and protected from the hardness of this life. It can get really hard at times, but Jesus died to make us good. Amen ?
 
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CooL_Genesis said:
BlessedBeliever, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. May the blessings of Christ be upon you and may His love comfort you and your family.

Suicide is a selfish act, like any other sin of the flesh. However, I will not be one to even speculate whether this act would send someone to Hell for eternity. To give an opinion on this matter seemingly makes one a judge over what God will decide to do with your friend.

God's will was not for us to end what He has given us. However, I am a believer in the fact that everything, good or bad, is done for His purposes. I believe He is in complete control. How many may come to know Christ as a direct result of this action? Dunno if any will... but I see painful events everyday turning the hearts and minds of people to Christ. His will be done.

My prayers and thoughts are with you, BlessedBeliever.

-Genesis

what if you kill yourself to stop yourself from making other people sad?
 
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MercuryAndy said:
what if you kill yourself to stop yourself from making other people sad?

I think that's the lie of suicide. I wonder if most people do it thinking they are helping others, I don't know, but if so, I think it's a very short-sighted view. My friend's dad did this because he thought he was a pain but the hurt afterwards that he didn't see was not worth it.
 
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Svt4Him said:
No, I'm saying if you are saved you will go to heaven.



No, God is holy. If you believe there can be no sin in heaven, let me ask where God goes when satan comes and talks to Him?

That fallacy aside, how do you get that someone going to heaven who is saved is full of death, is the fact they are dead different than the fact that every other human who is there has died as well?



Because of what Jesus did. Unless you think there is something you are doing, or your actions are so "good" that you deserve to be there more than anyone else. If so, I'm curious as to what you do to keep your salvation or what great deeds you've done to earn it in the first place. That's insane thinking IMO, and a lie from the heart of a person.


the bible says that we all sin so yes i do sin but we all have the chance to repent and to turn away fro are sin but if i take my life their is to time to repent. i have not done anything deep to say oh i am going to heaven. but this is a lifestyle that we must walk out everyday. so if i take my life then how can i do the will of God we are all here to do the work of the lord Know how can that be done if a take mylife that he gave me. becaue if read your bible it says when we did God is going to ask us what did we do for him. So if that person took their life what can they say that they did for God. Because killing yourself cannot be pleasing to him and are goal as christians is to always please God in all that we do.
 
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fifi said:
the bible says that we all sin so yes i do sin but we all have the chance to repent and to turn away fro are sin but if i take my life their is to time to repent. i have not done anything deep to say oh i am going to heaven. but this is a lifestyle that we must walk out everyday. so if i take my life then how can i do the will of God we are all here to do the work of the lord Know how can that be done if a take mylife that he gave me. becaue if read your bible it says when we did God is going to ask us what did we do for him. So if that person took their life what can they say that they did for God. Because killing yourself cannot be pleasing to him and are goal as christians is to always please God in all that we do.

So you are saying you lose your salvation every time you sin? If you don't repent you are not saved? Just so I know in case I swear before I die and don't have time to repent, or if I hear my wife swear if she gets into an accident then I know because of her sin she is in hell. Sure God will ask what we've done for Him, but don't confuse the issue of rewards with the issue of eternal damnation.
 
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I feel that no you wont go to heaven for many reason. It's a sin that is left unforgiven becuase you can't ask before you do it becuase you haven't done it yet and can't ask after. Plus it's break one of Gods commandments, and in breaking it you can't ask him to forgive you of it and all.Plus it's defiiling the temple God gave to you. Also, I am sorry to hear that
 
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aggie03 said:
As far as I know, there is no place in the Bible that deals with this directly. In other words, there isn't a verse that you can go to which talks explicitly about what happens when someone commits suicide.

Because of this, any answer that you are given will be based off of someone's understanding from other principles that are established in the Bible. Will it be all right to answer your question from those principles?

:liturgy: The bible does speak to this issue. Remember the ten commandments? Thou shall not kill. The taken of life is a sin that also mean your life as well.:angel:
 
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss.
Unfortunately I know what you are going thourgh.
I will have a look I should still have the bible studies I did on 'taking your own live'. Once I have it I'll post the scriptures.
One thing that helped me....we can plead for those who can not seak for themselves anylonger. Pray! Payer helped me alot! There was times that I thought I was going insane with the loss of my friend. Prayer helped me.
Please remember that God is mercy!
 
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epyon said:
:liturgy: The bible does speak to this issue. Remember the ten commandments? Thou shall not kill. The taken of life is a sin that also mean your life as well.:angel:

Just so I know, you are then calling God a murderer? Or is there perhaps a difference between killing and murder? As in intentions?
 
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Godslilgurlalways said:
I feel that no you wont go to heaven for many reason. It's a sin that is left unforgiven becuase you can't ask before you do it becuase you haven't done it yet and can't ask after. Plus it's break one of Gods commandments, and in breaking it you can't ask him to forgive you of it and all.Plus it's defiiling the temple God gave to you. Also, I am sorry to hear that

With Jesus, there is life. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Nothing can separate you from Jesus, not in this life nor in the life to come. Where sin abounds, grace that much more abounds. Do you continue to sin so grace may abound? NO, but that doesn't make grace abound less. Honestly quit relying on your own good works so much and trust that when Jesus said it is finished, it is finished. The requirements of the law are nailed to the cross. The law is a schoolmaster to bring you to Christ, it doesn't keep you there. It shows you are a sinner in need of a saviour, it has not power to save. It condemns you so you may live in Christ.
 
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