If you commit suicide do you go to heaven?

[Quoth]

Where do you find # 2 in the Bible?

James 1:22-23.

 

[kallenfranchise]

If your friend never knew Christ and no one witnessed to him about Christ, then he will go to heaven.

If your friend knew about Christ and denied him, then your friend goes to (_________).

Sorry to hear about your friend's death. I will pray for you.

God Bless You!!!

 

[Svt4Him]

If your friend never knew Christ and no one witnessed to him about Christ, then he will go to heaven.

If your friend knew about Christ and denied him, then your friend goes to (_________).

Sorry to hear about your friend's death. I will pray for you.

God Bless You!!!

WHAT? There's another way to heaven than Christ? Ignorance? Do you have a verse for this, as I'm pretty sure Jesus said there is one way, it's narrow, and anyone who tries to jump over the fence will be judged. With Jesus there is life, without the wrath of God. Sorry, the Bible argues with you on the view there are more than one way to heaven.

 

[Nadiine]

WHAT? There's another way to heaven than Christ? Ignorance? Do you have a verse for this, as I'm pretty sure Jesus said there is one way, it's narrow, and anyone who tries to jump over the fence will be judged. With Jesus there is life, without the wrath of God. Sorry, the Bible argues with you on the view there are more than one way to heaven.

Actually, Kristen's presupposing that without a Bible or Missionary, that God can't & doesn't reveal Himself or His law to people. That they're basically helpless to know about Him to accept.

But since God has given His full revelation, we can be assured that they ARE given revelations by God in other ways & are responsible to accept according to the light shown them.
(no time to elaborate right now)

 

[IisJustMe]

If your friend never knew Christ and no one witnessed to him about Christ, then he will go to heaven.

That's not true at all!

For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. (Romans 2:12-16)

There is none righteous, and no one gets a free pass just because they haven't heard of Christ. But it is these verses upon which we based the pop statement that there is a "God-shaped hole" in our spirit and in our soul that seeks to be filled. We will fill it with sin or with God. Even if we have never heard the gospel, we still have a drawing to God that can only be explained by His planting the seed of desire within us to know something higher and greater than ourselves.

 

[freeindeed2]

I have been asking friends and family this question and also trying to do some research on it and get mixed answers.

I ask this because a friend of Mine whom I was very close with in high school committed suicide on Easter Sunday.. If you know of any answers to this please let me know and thanks!

I don't know. My only sibling shot himself almost 14 years ago. I asked that question a lot early on and I still don't know the answer. Here's what I do know. God is absolutely fair and just, and he alone is in control. He asks us to trust Him, so I do.

So sorry for your loss...

In Christ alone...

 

[Svt4Him]

Let me quote again:

Those who are adamant that a person who takes his life is committing a mortal sin, and will go to hell, are basing their belief on church doctrine rather than on the Bible. Scripture is silent on the subject. There are no verses that say "He who takes his own life shall be damned." According to Scripture, only one sin does not have forgiveness, and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (see Mark 3:29 footnote). That means there is forgiveness for every other sin.
Some quote 1 Corinthians 3:17, which says that God will destroy someone who "defiles" the temple of the Holy Spirit. Yet, there is disagreement about what it means to defile the temple. Does this include suicide? Does it include illicit drug abuse (slow suicide), prescription drug abuse, cigarettes (deliberately breathing in poisons that will eventually kill), tattoos, over-eating (digging a grave with your spoon), or alcohol abuse?
God forbid that we add to the pain of someone who has lost a loved one through the tragedy of suicide, by making a judgment about their eternal destiny. God is the ultimate Judge, and we should therefore leave the issue in His hands. It would be wise to follow the biblical example and not come to any verdict in the case of suicide.


www.livingwaters.com


Quoted with permission.

 

[freeindeed2]

Let me quote again:

Those who are adamant that a person who takes his life is committing a mortal sin, and will go to hell, are basing their belief on church doctrine rather than on the Bible. Scripture is silent on the subject. There are no verses that say "He who takes his own life shall be damned." According to Scripture, only one sin does not have forgiveness, and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (see Mark 3:29 footnote). That means there is forgiveness for every other sin.
Some quote 1 Corinthians 3:17, which says that God will destroy someone who "defiles" the temple of the Holy Spirit. Yet, there is disagreement about what it means to defile the temple. Does this include suicide? Does it include illicit drug abuse (slow suicide), prescription drug abuse, cigarettes (deliberately breathing in poisons that will eventually kill), tattoos, over-eating (digging a grave with your spoon), or alcohol abuse?
God forbid that we add to the pain of someone who has lost a loved one through the tragedy of suicide, by making a judgment about their eternal destiny. God is the ultimate Judge, and we should therefore leave the issue in His hands. It would be wise to follow the biblical example and not come to any verdict in the case of suicide.


www.livingwaters.com


Quoted with permission.

I saw that on the first page, and I agree. (I'm a pastor, BTW.) God is fair and just and in control. It's not for us to decide. We are not the Just Judge.

Thank you for your post.

In Christ alone...

 

[wild01]

suggested reading
http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Jesus-A...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200104386&sr=8-1

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

I have been asking friends and family this question and also trying to do some research on it and get mixed answers.

I ask this because a friend of Mine whom I was very close with in high school committed suicide on Easter Sunday.. If you know of any answers to this please let me know and thanks!

If the person is truly a believer then all their sins are paid for past present and future . . . including suicide.

The idea that one must repent of a sin after simple faith in Christ to recieve forgiveness of that sin flies in the face of the efficiency of the sacrifice of Christ. The reward for the Christian in eternal life is based upon the works in their life . . . so suicide would apply to this . . . but damnation . . . nope.

 

[NESHero]

Hmmm, would suicide count as murder? i only ask this because of what ive read in your replies, you say if you kill a man its murder, then killing your self would be murder and the bible tells us not to kill.
So if suicide is in the same category as murder, then if i was assigned to put the lethal injection in a man's arm who committed a crime and was sent to death, does that mean im going to hell or that i committed sin?

 

[BustedFlat]

Do not confuse killing with spilling innocent blood. The executioner carrying out a legal order, or killing someone by accident or in self-defense is not murder.

Committing a sin will not keep you out of heaven, from the prospective of a Holy God, any sin is reason for not allowing one in to the presence of God. As sin is our very nature, we can not keep from sinning.

But the good news is that Jesus paid for every sin I have committed in my past, as well as every sin I will commit in my future. Praise His Holy Name. All my sins were all in the future when He was nailed to the cross.

The question is can one be saved, born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit and commit murder, of anyone including oneself?

 

[TheReasoner]

Do not confuse killing with spilling innocent blood. The executioner carrying out a legal order, or killing someone by accident or in self-defense is not murder.

Committing a sin will not keep you out of heaven, from the prospective of a Holy God, any sin is reason for not allowing one in to the presence of God. As sin is our very nature, we can not keep from sinning.

But the good news is that Jesus paid for every sin I have committed in my past, as well as every sin I will commit in my future. Praise His Holy Name. All my sins were all in the future when He was nailed to the cross.

The question is can one be saved, born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit and commit murder, of anyone including oneself?

1. In my opinion - and you may call this a matter of semantics - there is no such thing as innocent blood. We're all sinners, and all guilty of mortal sins. (Thank God for Christ!!!)

2. Being suicidal is often a matter of being sick. Committing suicide can be the consequence of mental or physical ailments that manifest themselves in suicidal behavior. Can this then be called murder, even though it is both premeditated and criminal?

 

[aggie03]

1. In my opinion - and you may call this a matter of semantics - there is no such thing as innocent blood. We're all sinners, and all guilty of mortal sins. (Thank God for Christ!!!)

2. Being suicidal is often a matter of being sick. Committing suicide can be the consequence of mental or physical ailments that manifest themselves in suicidal behavior. Can this then be called murder, even though it is both premeditated and criminal?

Other than substituting "mental illness" for "sick", I agree with your second point. Often people who commit suicide, even though they may have been normal their entire lives, have some kind of change in their lives, whether emotional, physiological or circumstantial, that alters their brain chemistry in a way to where they are no longer able to think clearly.

 

[hopeinGod]

I work at a hospital, and where there are sick folks, there exists all manner of attitudes and diseases.

We have, most likely, had suicides by patients.

However, what is less realized is that we've had suicides by employees. In separate incidences, two people jumped off the nearly 400 ft. high Sunshine Skyway bridge. One of them, a women, I watched walk into work for many years. Little did I know, she suffered with migraines. The other person completed his work shift, got in his car, and drove to the bridge -- a 45 minute drive from the hospital.

Another man shot himself in his vehicle on the hospital premises.

Were any of these folks saved? My guess would be, absolutely. The probabilities are huge. Can I accept that any one of them went to hell who were saved? No.

Sickness was the one, and only, cause.

Dave

 

[ANM29]

No, I don't believe they go to hell...No more than someone who never heard the gospel and dies goes to hell...

Grace once again......Not works.........Grace.....

God has much more compassion than churches teach. The concept of people going to hell for eternity for not knowing God, or dieing in the act of adultery is ludicrous......or being sick and killing themselves and going to hell is even more ludicrous....

 

[IisJustMe]

I work at a hospital, and where there are sick folks, there exists all manner of attitudes and diseases.

We have, most likely, had suicides by patients.

However, what is less realized is that we've had suicides by employees. In separate incidences, two people jumped off the nearly 400 ft. high Sunshine Skyway bridge. One of them, a women, I watched walk into work for many years. Little did I know, she suffered with migraines. The other person completed his work shift, got in his car, and drove to the bridge -- a 45 minute drive from the hospital.

Another man shot himself in his vehicle on the hospital premises.

Were any of these folks saved? My guess would be, absolutely. The probabilities are huge. Can I accept that any one of them went to hell who were saved? No.

Sickness was the one, and only, cause.

Dave

What he said ...
I'm a Christian psychologist. I know many of you can't accept the existence of such a being, but I am, seminary trained and biblically based. Sickness is all it is, though of a variety that is difficult for loved ones to spot, and even more difficult for loved ones to coax the sufferers into treatment. God's people get sick, physically, emotionally, spiritually. Just as we all fail at times to give our problems over to Jehovah-Rafa (God Who Heals) they who take their own lives also fail to hear Him calling them out of illness and sin. Does that separate them from God for eternity, when they act on it? There is no unforgiven sin other than failing to receive Christ as Savior. None. Nada. Zilch. Whether you take your own life or the life of another, Jesus paid it all, and if you acknowledge Him as Savior and Lord, nothing can separate you from that love. Not even violence against yourself.

 

[Ariel]

I have been asking friends and family this question and also trying to do some research on it and get mixed answers.

I ask this because a friend of Mine whom I was very close with in high school committed suicide on Easter Sunday.. If you know of any answers to this please let me know and thanks!

I don't know, BB, if you are still around. This post is over a year old.

But here is your answer. Yes, you do go to heaven, even though you have committed suicide, if you have asked Jesus to be your Lord and Savior.

You don't lose your salvation everytime you sin. Suicide is a sin--assuming it was a conscious choice--but you don't lose your salvation.

What is sad about suicide, though, is that your life is prematurely cut short. God had you on earth for a reason, and now if could be that that purpose will not be fulfilled.

If you are alive on earth, you are needed. However horrible your circumstances right now, they will change. There will come a day when you are grateful that you are still alive.

Trust me on this, I've lived it.

 

[junegillam]

beautiful answer, ariel--love your st. paddy's outfit, too!

 

[Ariel]

Thank you.

There was a time in my life when I wanted to die. I had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and major depression from a single horrific event in my life.

I remember getting angry at God. So much so that I went out in a lightning storm and screamed at God, "You could heal me in a moment, but you won't!" The lightning was all around me, I wanted God to strike me dead.

That moment God smiled on me. I was angry with Him, but He smiled on me. He told me that He would not take me out of my illness, but He would take me through it. That is exactly what happened.

No psychiatrist would give my husband any assurance that I would ever be well again. They told him that I had been completely fractured--my whole personality, everything, completely trashed. But today I am well. It took two years to get through the worst of it, and more years after that to put my life back together again. But I am well. I am not on any medications, I can laugh again, and more importantly, I can love my God, my husband and my children.

I give an account of that terrible time, and how I recovered from extreme PTSD here at this forum. The thread is called "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder--You Can Get Well."

I am giving the URL for anyone who suffers from major depression or PTSD:


http://christianforums.com/t6076696-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-you-can-get-well.html