If there is "no evidence" for evolution...

[Greg Merrill]

Which accredited universities promote atheism? Mine certainly didn't - we had people from many religions and cultures studying there. Personal religious beliefs weren't relevant - the paying customers would have complained if they had been.

It is not a matter of what religious students a university is receiving money from, but of what the professors and required texts are teaching, and believe me, to the most part, they are not teaching things that honor God, but dishonor him. They may not be teaching atheism per see, bluntly and openly, calling it by name, but they teach it as "practical atheism."

 

[Kenny'sID]

If you can find a public school science teacher who is teaching that there is no God, let me know and I will help you see that he gets his just deserts.

I'm sorry but our line of subject was creation being tossed, and now you are challenging me with another question altogether. Why, because you can win this one, but you cannot win on the actual subject you just changed for that very reason. So maybe you are reading your posts before you hit the post button and the problem lies in thinking you are intelligent enough to put one over on people., like you just attempted.

Funny how these exact type tiny deceptions keep coming from the evolution crowd. As I've commented before, it is such as that, that perpetuate the whole evolution thing. Small deceptions, people would hardly notice, if at all..the only way to make a lie work, so it makes perfect sense they do pop up.

Seriously, a teacher? and you are unable to put together the fact that when the teaching of God/Creation was replaced with nothing but evolution, what the end result would be/is?

You can squirm your way around this one all day long if you like but you are simply wrong, something anyone can see.

Is this the type reasoning you use to believe evolution over creation?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Not sure if that is a good thing/bad thing, or what since I have no idea what your experiment was. Also, not sure what that has to do with my observation.

The essence of my post is that evolution is tested all the time, but creationists have little interest in participating or looking through the results beyond denying any that support the theory of evolution.

Come to think of it, those with genuine interest don't tend to stick around this website for long.

How many non creationists turned you down?

None that I can recall, actually. After I opened the voting to non-creationists, it seems that everyone that participated in the thread after that who wasn't a creationist was willing to cast a vote.

 

[PsychoSarah]

What a waste to win a debate and not win a soul.

-_- you know, from my perspective, that sentence might as well be "what a waste to win a debate and not win nothing". The concept of "winning souls" doesn't make sense to an atheist, because even atheists that do believe in an afterlife don't view souls as "winnable".

Waste of time, waste of effort. There are better things to do.

I'm on here to improve my patience by challenging it with debates, and given the fact that my patience has improved a bit, I do view this as a worthwhile use of my time. Whether or not people change their minds is irrelevant to that goal.

 

[xianghua]

My great-grandfather was a German. How many generations of my descendants will have to be born and pass away before my great-grandfather stops being a German?

he said that human will always stay as human. do you agree with this notion?

 

[Kenny'sID]

The essence of my post is that evolution is tested all the time, but creationists have little interest in participating or looking through the results beyond denying any that support the theory of evolution.

First, that is not a fact, I have looked at "results" but evolution has still not been proven.

Will you prove it for me?

 

[PsychoSarah]

First, that is not a fact, I have looked at "results" but evolution has still not been proven.

Will you prove it for me?

-_- proof as a term in common use is to vague to meet any specific standard, and its academic use marks for such a high standard that only math equations can be "proven".

Whether or not the evidence convinces you is a matter of your own, not a set standard the world has to meet. But, we'll see the results of my experiment.

However, if my Triops end up looking like a colorful version of this, and people say "well 'tis not evolution because they are still Triops", I am going to flip a desk because this is an entirely different species that's twice the size with different body proportions that lives in a colder environment. A genus transition takes too long to reasonably test it in a human lifetime, deal with it.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

... then what have they been publishing in the Journal of Evolutionary Biology all these years?

(Not to mention other scientific journals like Evolution, Molecular Biology and Evolution, Journal of Molecular Evolution, Genome Biology and Evolution, and so on...)

Because there is either evolution or God , when you assume that God does not exist then you are left only with that other one even tho it does not make sense .

 

[PsychoSarah]

Because there is either evolution or God , when you assume that God does not exist then you are left only with that other one even tho it does not make sense .

False dichotomy. Are you not aware that there were scientific theories about changing trends in populations before Darwin's theory of evolution, or that other possibilities could be conceived that don't fall into theology or modern evolutionary theory?

Plus, I don't assume deities don't exist, scientific theories don't account for variables that are unverifiable.

Also, just because you personally can't make sense of the theory of evolution doesn't mean it objectively doesn't make sense.

 

[HitchSlap]

Sure you can, just tell a lie.

What are these? wise thoughts by Jack Handy?

Telling a lie does not render a truth invisible. Nor does starting a religion.

 

[HitchSlap]

Because there is either evolution or God , when you assume that God does not exist then you are left only with that other one even tho it does not make sense .

False dichotomy. If your god exists, then it used evolution. One not need assume the former, however.

 

[HitchSlap]

Do you? Are you ok with evolution being taught as non myth?

Reality isn’t for everyone. Maybe you should take a seat.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't need to.

Science teachers are mission fields too.

We’ve already established that science teachers can recognize truth, so whatr’ you goin’ on about, Chief?

 

[Kenny'sID]

Telling a lie does not render a truth invisible. Nor does starting a religion.

It does exactly that. lol But you find yourself a brick wall and argue it all day and into the night if you like...I'll not stoop to that level.

Let me check my calendar here...nope, not April the first.

 

[HitchSlap]

It's too bad science teachers don't know NOTHING.

And I mean that literally.

Else they wouldn't want evidence of creatio ex NOTHING.

Science teachers are myopic.

They tend to sniff out bull speck pretty well.

 

[HitchSlap]

It does exactly that. lol But you find yourself a brick wall and argue it all day and into the night if you like...I'll not stoop to that level.

Let me check my calendar here...nope, not April the first.

I don’t recommend arguing with brick walls or playing chess with pigeons.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Reality isn’t for everyone. Maybe you should take a seat.

More of the wise and wonderful? Or just an incoherent that seemed right, that I don't know what to do with? It almost had the making of a real to life smart comeback, but it was attached to nothing in the conversation.

The least you could have done was answer the question...will you do that now?

 

[AV1611VET]

We’ve already established that science teachers can recognize truth, so whatr’ you goin’ on about, Chief?

Pretend you're a science teacher.

Q: True or false? The earth existed before the sun.

Here's a secular one:

Q: Biological evolution is only one type of several other types of evolution, the whole of which constitutes cosmic evolution?

 

[AV1611VET]

They tend to sniff out bull speck pretty well.

I think they're more concerned with [King James] McGraw-Hill, than they are the King James Bible.

And even more concerned with that paycheck.

BUT, to their credit, let me reiterate: teaching creationism does not belong in science class.

It belongs in history class.

Let the history teacher sweat his pay.

 

[Speedwell]

I'm sorry but our line of subject was creation being tossed, and now you are challenging me with another question altogether. Why, because you can win this one, but you cannot win on the actual subject you just changed for that very reason. So maybe you are reading your posts before you hit the post button and the problem lies in thinking you are intelligent enough to put one over on people., like you just attempted.

Funny how these exact type tiny deceptions keep coming from the evolution crowd. As I've commented before, it is such as that, that perpetuate the whole evolution thing. Small deceptions, people would hardly notice, if at all..the only way to make a lie work, so it makes perfect sense they do pop up.

Seriously, a teacher? and you are unable to put together the fact that when the teaching of God/Creation was replaced with nothing but evolution, what the end result would be/is?

You can squirm your way around this one all day long if you like but you are simply wrong, something anyone can see.

Is this the type reasoning you use to believe evolution over creation?

No, you claimed "creation is being tossed" and I just wanted to make sure what you meant by "creation." If what you meant is biblical creationism, then yes, it has been tossed and good riddance. If what you meant is the proposition that God is ultimately author of all, then no, it has not been tossed. It just doesn't come up in science class but even there it is not explicitly denied.