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Depends on how you define "cat". Most certainly evolutionary processes could result in a lineage of dogs becoming progressively more cat-like until they seem much more like cats than dogs, but it's unlikely to the point of it being impossible that it would occur due to the same mutations that produced house cats to begin with. There is extreme variety in the genomes that would result in identical physiology, which is how eyes have evolved independently hundreds of times.yes. but there is a chance that we will get the cat genome by a random event as well (although very small). so basically a cat can evolve from a dog by mutation.
What's this "last year" stuff? We have always* known life in the fossil record started in the ocean.
Rubbish. I only have to show one Christian who is also a scientist to demonstrate that you're wrong.
We all know about Francis Collins so I'll put his name forward.
That would make "kind" inconsistent, because there aren't clear barriers between groups of organisms against breeding. Species A and B can breed, species B and C can breed, but species A and C cannot breed is a common observation in nature and causes just as much of a problem for "kinds" as it does for the species labels themselves.
That is true. But if they profess themselves to be Christians and appear to order their lives according to the essential basic tenets of the Christian faith, then all we can do here below is to accept them as Christians even if they don't agree with you about the Bible.God tells us that you cannot know who is or who is not a Christian. Try again?
That is true. But if they profess themselves to be Christians and appear to order their lives according to the essential basic tenets of the Christian faith, then all we can do here below is to accept them as Christians even if they don't agree with you about the Bible.
That's fine, if that's what you want to believe about the Bible. We accept you as a Christian anyway, despite it.Amen, and I welcome their views. What I find is that most study the ancient superstitious religious views of people who lived thousands of years ago. The FIRST 34 verses of Genesis contain the scientific discoveries made in the last days and tell us the complete History of God's 7 Day Creation. All the rest of the Bible refers BACK to these 34 verses and adds details. There is NO way for anyone to understand UNLESS they live in our Age because they don't have the "increased knowledge" necessary to understand those 34 verses. Dan 12:4 These verses ALSO agree with every discovery of Science and History AND reveal our Future. God Bless you
That's fine, if that's what you want to believe about the Bible. We accept you as a Christian anyway.
Not so since scientists first announced this July 25, 2016.
Looking for LUCA, the Last Universal Common Ancestor | News ...
https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/.../looking-for-luca-the-last-universal-common-ancestor/
Mar 30, 2017 - Looking for LUCA, the Last Universal Common Ancestor. Around 4 billion years ago there lived a microbe called LUCA — the Last Universal Common Ancestor. ... The study of the genetic tree of life, which reveals the genetic relationships and evolutionary history of organisms, is called phylogenetics.
Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things - The New York Times
Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things
Jul 25, 2016 - This venerable ancestor was a single-cell, bacterium-like organism. But it has a grand name, or at least an acronym. It is known as Luca, the Last Universal Common Ancestor, and is estimated to have lived some four billion years ago, when Earth was a mere 560 million years old. The new finding sharpens ...
Scientists find Luca, a single-cell, bacterium-like organism that is the ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › Science
Jul 26, 2016 - Scientists might have found the common ancestor that unites all life on Earth – and it's called Luca. Our ultimate relative was a single-cell, bacterium-like organism known as Last Universal Common Ancestor or Luca. And it could help establish how life on Earth began, at the very start.
It took today's "advanced" Science more than 3k years to confirm what God told us so long ago in the first chapter of Genesis. Gen 1:21 It's testable evidence of God, which means that our generation is the last. Joe 2:28 Act 2:17
Wouldn't everybody, whether or not they were evolutionists? But don't presume its possible in advance of your stipulated "if". Its possible in the sense its possible I could win several million dollar lottery tickets in a row.sure. but im sure that if this will happen evolutionists will claim that the fact its happen prove its possible.
Doesn't mean scientists didn't know life started in the ocean; does pin down more details about the first life.
Genesis 1:21 was written long before Science existed. Please try to explain How ancient men who lived thousands of years before Science knew and correctly wrote that Whales and every other living creature began in water.
If you actually read all of Genesis 1 instead of cherry-picking single passages, it's pretty obvious it talks about water life arising the water, and land-based life arising on land. Not exactly a miraculous revelation given that even an ancient people could easily see that life exists on both land and water.
So I'm afraid that cherry-picking and narrowly interpreting single passages doesn't win you any points here.
If you actually read all of Genesis 1 instead of cherry-picking single passages, it's pretty obvious it talks about water life arising the water, and land-based life arising on land. Not exactly a miraculous revelation given that even an ancient people could easily see that life exists on both land and water.
Gen 1:21
21 God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
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... then what have they been publishing in the Journal of Evolutionary Biology all these years?
(Not to mention other scientific journals like Evolution, Molecular Biology and Evolution, Journal of Molecular Evolution, Genome Biology and Evolution, and so on...)
Amen, except for the above verse. Here it is from the KJV:
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.
Birds were made AFTER "His" kind or the kinds Jesus made the next day from the ground. It's the way God sees things. He sees the end from the beginning
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, God commanded and Jesus made the common ancestors, some from water and others from the ground. Amen?
Aman, you are a LIAR! Your "True Colors" shows you to be a Dishonest Charlatan! I'll call you out as the evidence shows because as demonstrated below, you ADMIT That Science of Mankind doesn't agree with your FALSE reinterpretation of your version of the Bible:My true colors are the same as God's Truth which AGREES in every way with every discovery of mankind. IOW, you haven't understood a word I've posted OR you know down deep in your heart that you are in error, so you wish to run.
Adam's Earth, made in the first heaven DID. Gen 1:8
- Science does not agree that Earth existed before stars existed.
Science is ignorant of the Earth where Humanity began. You should tell them.
- Science does not agree that water existed before stars existed.
Tell them to go to Lake Van, Turkey and they will find Adam's firmament on the bottom of the Lake covered in 11k years of volcanic sediment.
- Science has no "firmament or alternate universe extricating into this universe" proposition, so this proposition doesn't agree with science.
Adam's Earth was made billions of years BEFORE the Big Bang of our Cosmos. Each of God's Days/Ages is some 4.5 billion years, in man's time. Today is the 6th Day.
- Science has not confirmed the existence of grass before Dinosaurs existed. Even if you are right and Science is ignorant of some firmament or alternative universe extricating into this universe that did have grass before Dinosaurs, the fact remains that Science still has not confirmed the existence of grass before Dinosaurs, so this still fails.
Science cannot show the process nor can it be repeated which changes Apes into Humans (descendants of Adam). It's because Apes are NOT the Human kind. One must believe in Magic and have great Faith in the ToE.
- Science shows Humans having evolved over time from an ape ancestor shared with Chimpanzees, Bonobos, and other great apes, with emergent intelligence resulting from our evolution. Science does NOT show any evidence of an introduced "Human Race" from another universe/firmament.
You should be embarrassed and ashamed for representing your faith in such a dishonest and deceitful way. Do you even care about honesty and integrity, or are the few parts of the bible touching on that subject reinterpreted too?Science falsely ASSUMES that Humans MUST have evolved from Apes since they are "willingly ignorant" of what God told us in Genesis.
- Science shows no evidence of Intelligent Humans existing for billions of years before this Universe began. Instead, it shows Humans are an emergent species of Ape that have come about in the last couple of hundred thousand years or so.
I'm not seeing your quarrel with the New American Standard translation. Seems to me it means the same as the King James in that verse.
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