If suicidals only knew

[variant]

We are on this earth for other people, not just ourselves. That might sound trite but I believe it to be true.

I'm not sure how far you will get with this, as, people who are suicidal are in so much pain they don't want to live anymore, so, expecting them to care about other peoples feelings isn't exactly reasonable. The expectations and feelings of others are often a burden, which is something the person you are dealing with might wish to escape.

It is unreasonable to expect empathy from someone made irrational by pain. To appeal to suicidal people you have to empathize with them, try to understand how much pain they truly are in and help them understand that it can get better and that there is hope.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

To appeal to suicidal people you have to empathize with them

To be honest I can empathise with some more than others. if I recognize shared personality traits or ways of looking at life, I can do a better job of compassion.

 

[Philip33]

Maybe that is the key to a lot of problems. Seeing it from other points of view.

If only it were that easy friend, but its not that simple.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'm not sure how far you will get with this, as, people who are suicidal are in so much pain they don't want to live anymore, so, expecting them to care about other peoples feelings isn't exactly reasonable. The expectations and feelings of others are often a burden, which is something the person you are dealing with might wish to escape.

It is unreasonable to expect empathy from someone made irrational by pain. To appeal to suicidal people you have to empathize with them, try to understand how much pain they truly are in and help them understand that it can get better and that there is hope.

As a person that has been suicidal before, I can safely say that at my worst, I was fully aware that people would be in pain at my death, and did not care. I even considered the real possibility that it would likely make my sister turn to illegal substances to cope or wreak my mother's mental state, and I did not care. Because, even with that, everything would still be better with me gone than me here.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

What if it fails? That is a question worth considering? I've had a carer job in the past looking after, someone who failed in his attempt.

 

[variant]

As a person that has been suicidal before, I can safely say that at my worst, I was fully aware that people would be in pain at my death, and did not care. I even considered the real possibility that it would likely make my sister turn to illegal substances to cope or wreak my mother's mental state, and I did not care. Because, even with that, everything would still be better with me gone than me here.

Thanks for that. Yeah, I understand, I was already speaking from experience.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

As a person that has been suicidal before, I can safely say that at my worst, I was fully aware that people would be in pain at my death, and did not care. I even considered the real possibility that it would likely make my sister turn to illegal substances to cope or wreak my mother's mental state, and I did not care. Because, even with that, everything would still be better with me gone than me here.

Sorry. I didn't mean to upset people like yourself.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Sorry. I didn't mean to upset people like yourself.

I'm not upset, don't worry about it.

 

[Desk trauma]

Imagine if there was an easy way of exiting. "I'm tired of life, I'm out of here." Everyone accepts your decision and says farewell, maybe at a farewell party maybe not. You go to a room where a GP gives you an injection, you fall asleep forever. No pain. Easy.
That is assisted suicide. Would you like to see that available in your country?

Yes.

wouldn't. it is for open for abuse.

Then put in place safe guards and checks that close off that issue.

We are on this earth for other people, not just ourselves. That might sound trite but I believe it to be true.

That's your belief, why should others be forced to abide by it?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

That's your belief, why should others be forced to abide by it?

I'm not forcing my belief on you, but a lot of Christians would agree with me.

 

[Desk trauma]

I'm not forcing my belief on you, but a lot of Christians would agree with me.

If the assisted sucked option you're concerned about is offered you would not be compelled to use it but making it illegal compelles people to not use it.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I'm not forcing my belief on you, but a lot of Christians would agree with me.

I think it is irrational to think that people who are suicidal themselves could provide anything back to other people at that point in their lives.

Plus, Jesus is preparing us for heaven. We are His servants of course, but that doesn't mean that our main focus is other people. God tells us to love Him first.

Why people want to turn a knife again for someone already bleeding is beyond me. Christ is merciful and compassionate enough to offer us all grace. But we cannot extend grace to others?

I think people need to educate themselves on what mental illness really is. It's led by a body that doesn't function correctly.