Jesus almost certainly did not utter the word "Hades." He probably said Sheol.
What I see is that the gospel writers chose a Greek word that already had a meaning to a Greek-reading audience, a meaning that they considered close enough in concept to whatever Jesus actually said. And even if Jesus did utter "Hades," then Jesus chose the word for the concept a Greek-speaking audience already understood.
Isaiah 63 equals revelation 19 is an astute observation.
Not sure Jeremiah 48 fits though. It's not a divine reference. It's just talking about people in Edom. Being conquered and not being able to make food for themselves.
Thanks, can you show me proof? Can you point me to scripture that says Jesus didn't suffer the 2nd death for us sinners.
I can produce scripture that says He went into the heart of the earth where the lava is
Death and Hades has not been cast into the lake of fire yet.
Those hidden in the refuge provided are justifiedWhat's in OP is not how justification is made. An analogy is as follows,
A nest of bees stung humans and will be put to fire to be destroyed. However local law says that if a human is willing make a self-sacrifice by donating his house to the victims, he can spare the nest of bees from being burnt. He can then put the nest of bees in a safe location where the bees can continue to live but without harming any humans.
The above shows a reasonable justification for the lives of bees and the sacrifice of a much more superior and precious human. The justification doesn't lie on burning a human for the bees.
Death and Hades has not been cast into the lake of fire yet.
Yet if the sin of the unregenerate is not atoned for; that is their final end - whether they are there now or not.
So if you believe Jesus paid for your sin; that would have to encompass the entirety of that payment through the course of time and eternity. Which would HAVE to mean; Jesus dealt with the second death.
He did not go to the second death himself. It hasnt happened yet with death and hades thrown into the fiery lake.
Jesus is the "lamb slain from the foundations of the world" (Revelation 13:8) If there was no world yet; how is the lamb slain?
It was already decided then.
Jesus is the "lamb slain from the foundations of the world" (Revelation 13:8) If there was no world yet; how is the lamb slain?
You are not even quoting the verse correctly.
8 And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, [every one] whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that hath been slain.
You are not even quoting the verse correctly.
8 And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, [every one] whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that hath been slain.
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