If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

[Skavau]

God will not punish you for the way you think. Don't you think God would show you that you are a sinner first and give you a chance to repent? You have to realize that you are dead in sins before you can become converted. If you genuinely have never felt like a sinner and no need to repent then heaven will be your home. If God has spoken to your heart and you continue to make up excuses then he will indeed punish you. He gives us all a chance.

If I do not repent, do not accept vicarious redemption then God will, according to almost every Christian on this thread, punish me for what I think.

 

[Kirsten]

Then, yes. Why put people in such a dismal existence? Annihilationism would be more ethical.

Also, a side question: Do you honestly believe that Muslims would believe that they "rejected good" (I'm actually not seeing any direct connection between accepting salvation and goodness. It is all about following orders and has nothing to do with morality. It is much more a self-serving action than anything else) and be in despair on the basis of "envy" and "jealousy"? Do you think God should have nothing for them for their own faith, their own convictions?

Who are you to tell God what is ethical?

 

[Skavau]

God does not need us to support Him. You are completely misunderstanding. We simply believe Him. It's not up to us to support Him.

By worshiping him, by praising him, by living your life to his edicts you de facto support his policy towards non-Christians.

 

[Skavau]

Who are you to tell God what is ethical?

Someone who has been given free-will to do so. He cannot expect his creation that he endowed with independent thinking to query anything especially anything regarding him.

 

[okmike]

God will not punish you for the way you think. Don't you think God would show you that you are a sinner first and give you a chance to repent? You have to realize that you are dead in sins before you can become converted. If you genuinely have never felt like a sinner and no need to repent then heaven will be your home. If God has spoken to your heart and you continue to make up excuses then he will indeed punish you. He gives us all a chance.

Please stop making up your own theology. The bible says we are all born sinners. Whether you think you have sinned or not, we have all sinned. Only those who repent and turn to God will be saved. Period. Those who reject Christ will not. Period.

 

[Skavau]

Who decides what is ethical?

No-one. It is argued for and I am yet to see a good argument for why people deserve to be tortured for eternity for not being a Christian.

 

[nonbeliever314]

Nonbeleiver314, after having debates with several atheists I learned that they really did not want an answer to their questions, but they ask their questions to draw Christians into a never ending debate that provides the atheists opportunity to show their contempt for Christians and God. Assuming you are genuinely looking for the truth about your question, I will simply ask you a question: "Are you willing risk your eternity on the opinions of others or will you seek the truth from the Bible?"

I don't believe in anything, I only think. I think there is no god, not "believe" there isn't. There is no truth in the Bible at all, or any other religious text for that matter. And when you ask are you willing to risk your eternity, that goes back to my post in here that your religion is based on fear, and that it tries to overcome nihilism by attempting to put meaning and a reason to most things. I will risk it, I already know what it's like to be dead.. I can just imagine what it was like before I was born, nothing. I won't be driven to submission, because there is a supposed divine threat of eternal suffering, I cannot love and fear something absolutely at the same time, it's nonsense. The bible is ancient, and people wrote it I THINK, to keep people in check, and as I said in my other long post, keep people in check in the most subtle, sinister way possible.

 

[Kirsten]

Someone who has been given free-will to do so. He cannot expect his creation that he endowed with independent thinking to query anything especially anything regarding him.

Yes, He has given you free will to speak to Him that way.

 

[nonbeliever314]

Yes, He has given you free will to speak to Him that way.

There is no free will.

 

[Kirsten]

No-one. It is argued for and I am yet to see a good argument for why people deserve to be tortured for eternity for not being a Christian.

So stop referring to ethics when they truly have no meaning. We all have different opinions about it and nobody's is any more ethical than any others. People who do not believe in God have zero reference to moral conviction. You all just throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks. It's all random, just like everything in existence.

 

[seekingsolace]

Then, yes. Why put people in such a dismal existence? Annihilationism would be more ethical.

Also, a side question: Do you honestly believe that Muslims would believe that they "rejected good" (I'm actually not seeing any direct connection between accepting salvation and goodness. It is all about following orders and has nothing to do with morality. It is much more a self-serving action than anything else) and be in despair on the basis of "envy" and "jealousy"? Do you think God should have nothing for them for their own faith, their own convictions?

It's nothing to do with following orders. Really it comes down to accepting a gift or not.

There are people who no matter how much goodness you show to them, they will repay with evil. if a person will not change, how can you help them?

 

[Kirsten]

There is no free will.

Who told you that?

 

[Skavau]

It's nothing to do with following orders. Really it comes down to accepting a gift or not.

I do not believe said gift exists. Muslims do not believe said gift exists. They believe that another gift exists. Why did God offer this gift only to those who pledge him allegiance? Why did he offer nothing but despair and suffering for those too skeptical or too ignorant to notice it?

 

[Skavau]

So stop referring to ethics when they truly have no meaning. We all have different opinions about it and nobody's is any more ethical than any others. People who do not believe in God have zero reference to moral conviction. You all just throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks. It's all random, just like everything in existence.

I said that moral arguments are argued for, not just decreed based on authority. I did not claim that ethics has no value or can't be understood or argued for - to the contrary - it can and no argument that has ever been presented has ever provided a sufficient justification for why all Non-Christians deserve to be tortured for eternity.

 

[Skavau]

There are people who no matter how much goodness you show to them, they will repay with evil. if a person will not change, how can you help them?

What evil have I repaid people with? Why do I deserve to be tortured just for "not changing" or not changing in the appropriate way?

 

[OldRegularBaptist]

If I do not repent, do not accept vicarious redemption then God will, according to almost every Christian on this thread, punish me for what I think.

Like I said before you have to realize that you are dead in sins, dying and going to hell to be able to repent. It takes god to enlighten us that we are sinners. Christian or no, they can not determine someone else destination by what they think. God doesn't judge anyone by what they think. He will however let you live the way you want to live.. During your life he will indeed visit you and show you what kind of condition you are truly in, then it becomes your choice to seek knock and ask for forgivness. repentance..... If he never visits you and you die the way you are thinking then heaven will be your home...If he does visit you and you continue to reject his call, hell will be your home...

 

[Kirsten]

I said that moral arguments are argued for, not just decreed based on authority. I did not claim that ethics has no value or can't be understood or argued for - to the contrary - it can and no argument that has ever been presented has ever provided a sufficient justification for why all Non-Christians deserve to be tortured for eternity.

And in the end, morality is all subjective. The justification for people who reject Christ not entering the kingdom of heaven is because the wages of sin is death, eternal death, regardless of what you believe. God has made a way for you not to suffer this death and you don't want it. That is your choice. That's it. It's that simple. You don't believe this. That's fine. I do, as do many others. Co-exist.

 

[seekingsolace]

I do not believe said gift exists. Muslims do not believe said gift exists. They believe that another gift exists. Why did God offer this gift only to those who pledge him allegiance? Why did he offer nothing but despair and suffering for those too skeptical or too ignorant to notice it?

The gift is to all people, it is not pledging allegiance. People make themselves skeptical or ignorant, a person is responsible for their own denial.

 

[Skavau]

Like I said before you have to realize that you are dead in sins, dying and going to hell to be able to repent. It takes god to enlighten us that we are sinners. Christian or no, they can not determine someone else destination by what they think. God doesn't judge anyone by what they think. He will however let you live the way you want to live.. During your life he will indeed visit you and show you what kind of condition you are truly in, then it becomes your choice to seek knock and ask for forgivness. repentance..... If he never visits you and you die the way you are thinking then heaven will be your home...If he does visit you and you continue to reject his call, hell will be your home...

So if I die as a Non-Christian what will he judge me on exactly?

 

[Skavau]

And in the end, morality is all subjective. The justification for people who reject Christ not entering the kingdom of heaven is because the wages of sin is death, eternal death, regardless of what you believe. God has made a way for you not to suffer this death and you don't want it. That is your choice. That's it. It's that simple. You don't believe this. That's fine. I do, as do many others. Co-exist.

I don't believe in a God(s). There is no choice to me. This is all hypothetical and speculative to me. The objection I have here is that you are endorsing torture and thought-crime all the while calling yourself a citizen of a nation that finds them abhorrent.

It is not surprising thought that to find out underneath it all that you are a nihilist.

Here's a speculative question on that front: If God ordered you to kill someone, would it be right?