If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

[Skavau]

I know why people think Christianity is hateful. It's because nobody wants to be told they are a sinner. People take offense to that and accuse people of being hateful. I am the first to admit I am a sinner. I am no different from any other sinner except that I am forgiven. That is the only difference between you and me.

That's not why people, or I view Christianity as hateful. I couldn't care less than Christianity regards me as a sinner. Christianity regards everyone as a sinner.

That you think that's why I call your beliefs hateful indicates you have not been paying attention.

 

[GillDouglas]

So your worldview has nothing to do with morality whatsoever there? The process of being saved or not being saved has nothing to do with our behaviour but merely obedience?

Obedience is the first step. A Christian is not meant to sit by as the world crumbles around them. They are to act like the one who saved us and serve others.

 

[Skavau]

Obedience is the first step. A Christian is not meant to sit by as the world crumbles around them. They are to act like the one who saved us and serve others.

What about an Atheist who devotes themselves to charitable causes for secular reasons? Are they helping to break the world? Does God have nothing for them?

 

[GillDouglas]

No, you don't have to do anything but you don't appear even remotely aware about how awful what it is you literally believe.

You live in a free country, a first-world secular nation. Your rights are protected by law. You are granted free speech, free expression, free association, free movement and freedom from oppression of all kinds. These rights are regarded as inalienable. You're granted them by merit of being born yet you believe ultimately that all of the liberties that you enjoy, that everyone enjoys should be thrown away and endorse a system where most of the planet is thrown into torture merely for what they think.

Your beliefs and values are more at home in Saudi Arabia than they are in the US or any European Western Nation.

What are you babbling about? My country was founded on religious freedom. Now I'm not free to express my religious beliefs.

 

[Kirsten]

Don't answer for others. It's presumptuous and rude.

The answer to why I reject Christ is because I am not convinced of his divinity because I don't believe gods exist like I don't believe Bigfoot and leprechauns exist.

I am not answering for you. I am telling you what God has already declared. I happen to believe Him.

 

[Kirsten]

What about an Atheist who devotes themselves to charitable causes for secular reasons? Are they helping to break the world? Does God have nothing for them?

God has everything for us and He has offered it. It is up to you to receive it.

 

[sdmsanjose]

By Oafman

You believe God expects a perfection that no man has ever achieved. God created us to fail. To fall short of his expectations. Born sick and ordered to be well. And then he demands we beg for forgiveness?

This whole idea is so deeply horrible, as well as totally illogical. It mystifies me how anyone can actually believe it​

You seem to think you have God all figured out and you think that your logic is what should be applied to FAITH. That is like trying to mix water and oil. I think that your understanding of God and faith based upon your assurance and high opinion of your mind and logic is a little over your head.

You have no answer at all for death and the afterlife so you mock the faith that does.

Your philosophy is empty when the very important question of death, afterlife, and loved ones are presented. Billions of people throughout all of history have contemplated these questions and almost all cultures have an innate belief in a God. Your opposition is not convincing.

You can come to this Christian site and try and convince believers that their faith is horrible but you will not change one true committed believer to your way of thinking. So in the end, if you keep your philosophy, you will just have to stay “mystified”

 

[GillDouglas]

What about an Atheist who devotes themselves to charitable causes for secular reasons? Are they helping to break the world? Does God have nothing for them?

I can appreciate the charitable unbeliever as much as the next guy. I will tell you again though, it is not my place to determine the fate of them. It's not my view of the 'good' person, it's God's.

 

[Skavau]

What are you babbling about? My country was founded on religious freedom. Now I'm not free to express my religious beliefs.

Your country was founded on religious freedom but you endorse an ideology that tortures people for their religious (or non-religious) beliefs.

 

[Kirsten]

That's not why people, or I view Christianity as hateful. I couldn't care less than Christianity regards me as a sinner. Christianity regards everyone as a sinner.

That you think that's why I call your beliefs hateful indicates you have not been paying attention.

That is my opinion. According to you, you should be listening to me.

 

[Kirsten]

Your country was founded on religious freedom but you endorse an ideology that tortures people for their religious (or non-religious) beliefs.

You don't even believe in the after-life. You don't need to worry about it.

 

[Skavau]

That is my opinion. According to you, you should be listening to me.

What's my opinion? The track record indicates that you have not been paying attention to my issues with your religious philosophy. You think I dislike being called a sinner. I don't. That's not my objection.

 

[Skavau]

You don't even believe in the after-life. You don't need to worry about it.

This is missing the point. That people believe horrific things and expect me to extend my hand and respect those beliefs is disturbing.

 

[GillDouglas]

Your country was founded on religious freedom but you endorse an ideology that tortures people for their religious (or non-religious) beliefs.

I don't torture anyone based on their beliefs.

 

[GillDouglas]

This is missing the point. That people believe horrific things and expect me to extend my hand and respect those beliefs is disturbing.

Yet we respect yours.

 

[Skavau]

I don't torture anyone based on their beliefs.

I didn't say you did. I said you endorsed an ideology that supports the torture of people for their religious beliefs.

 

[Skavau]

Yet we respect yours.

I don't insist you respect my beliefs but then it is worth pointing out that I don't support torture, or thought-crime or totalitarianism.

 

[GillDouglas]

I didn't say you did. I said you endorsed an ideology that supports the torture of people for their religious beliefs.

What a man brings upon himself in unbelief is on him. I can't stay awake at night over your unbelief.

 

[GillDouglas]

I don't insist you respect my beliefs but then it is worth pointing out that I don't support torture, or thought-crime or totalitarianism.

I respect your preservation of human life and rights.

 

[ccmission]

sorry for caps sure next time I will not do that
jagan