If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

[JohnOfWoodGreen]

Well, nonbeliever314, I have sinned at least once, and that makes me a bad person, even though I am not an atheist (indeed, I am a Christian). I am probably a worse person than you, but I’m afraid that doesn’t make you not-a-bad-person. My only hope as a Christian is that God has enabled me to truly trust in Christ and follow Him because He has borne my sins and the punishment thereof, has risen from the dead as proof that He has paid the debt I owed in full, that He counts me as clean and is, as part of salvation, enabling me to live like a better person than I actually am, and that He will completely remove sin from me when I die or He comes again, and take me to be with Himself for ever.

If you go to Hell, it won’t be because you were a worse person than I, but because you didn’t let Christ save you for the comparatively good, but still bad person that you are; because your sins, though less numerous and heinous than others’, are still on you.

 

[GrimKingGrim]

When atheists rail against theists, they are using the same fervor the religious use when making their claims against a secular society.

I concede. Except our target appeals are different and we don't "rail" against religion that often. Usually it's the religious who claim to be under attack when we ask for evidence or a credible case.

You still believe in something, and you're willing to defend that belief.

Everyone has a belief. Ours just so happens to not be in the area of theism. We don't have gods, nobody has gods. We believe that humans should cater to other humans based on human ideals.

To nonbeliever314 - You - or I or any human - are not in any position to judge what is evil.

Says who?

The Creator is.

Olodumare!

He says that we have ALL sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Funny how he condemns all for no reason.

The Bible says to lean not on our own understanding. It also says that our hearts are desperately wicked.

Brainwashing 101 - tell the victim that their own mind is untrustworthy and irrelevant and yours is the only valid opinion. Rinse repeat until disillusion.

Denying Jesus as savior is evil in itself.

Because of what exactly? I don't have evidence he ever existed as described in the bible. I don't believe in Dionysus either for the exact same reason.

Ask God to open your spiritual eyes.

I did. He told me he's not real and made me an atheist. What a guy

He is only pleased with us when we have FAITH.

What does faith entail?

Believe and you will begin to see!

I'd much rather know.

Fear the Lord - Psalm 111:10 - "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise."
Romans 9:20 - "On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, 'Why did you make me like this,' will it?"

Oh a book said something did it? Let me go ahead and grab my Edgar Allan Poe so we can really start making a cult...

Confess - Say your sins to God and tell Him that you're sorry (if, in fact, you are).

I did. It didn't work.

Repent - Which means to turn from your sin.

For what sin have I, a death god, committed?

Be Baptized - By full immersion.

Did it as a child, didn't work.

Read the Word.

I do from time to time. But there are plenty more better written books.

Pray.

I prey on a lot of things.

Talk to God.

I do talk to myself alot but what would that do?

Ask Him to help you. Ask Him to help others. Tell Him if you feel lost. You can even tell Him that you don't know what to say to Him!

Oh my I should convince myself that Voldemort is listening to me grovel to him. So any event that happens in my life that I can associate with this groveling I can attribute to Voldemort. So if I grovel to Voldemort to make my glass of Orange Juice delicious, if the glass is delicious then I praise Voldemort, if it isn't, then I curse Voldemort.

It's a win win for Voldemort either way because he now has my servitude.

To All - I am not very familiar with this website, but going by the name, "Christian Forums," I am surprised and disappointed to see what many of the replies on this thread say. It seems that there is hardly anyone who wants to advise and help this lost person according to God's Word.

Did you expect a thread addressing atheists wouldn't have Atheists?

 

[Skavau]

Yes, you will end up in Hell, because you are not as good as you think you are. God is good and Holy, and we are not. That's the problem.

Now that's an absurd comment. My opinion is that you should love God. My opinion is that you should dye your hair blue.

I take both of those statements as seriously as the arguments used to justify them.

You're right that this is a part of our belief system. Your actions should be in line with your thoughts.

I oppose totalitarianism in all its forms be it theistic or human in origin. I am pro-liberty, pro people's rights to live their lives without oppression or intimidation or fear of torture.

 

[Skavau]

Lusting after another woman is the first step in adultery. You don't just stumble into another women's bed before thinking about it.

No it isn't. For a start the woman might be unattached and you might be unattached. Secondly it could just be a notion. The idea that any thought of lust ultimately leads to adultery is nonsense. This is another reason why I oppose your worldview - it demonises thought.

 

[GillDouglas]

I oppose totalitarianism in all its forms be it theistic or human in origin. I am pro-liberty, pro people's rights to live their lives without oppression or intimidation or fear of torture.

These are God given right's.

 

[Skavau]

These are God given right's.

God's right to what? To torture me for what I think?

 

[PastorMelissa]

I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?

I don't normally answer on pages like this, but I feel led to. This is not for debate, this is my personal experience and belief. As I am typing this I want all who read this to read it in a kind tone because that is how I am writing it. I just want to explain how I see the answer to the question. I am a Christian. I wasn't always a Christian though. I was a pretty good person as well. But I found that in the Bible, yes, the Bible in John 14:6 Jesus tells us that, "I am the way, the truth and the life, No one comes to the Father except through me." It's about a relationship and the more you learn about that relationship, you will begin to long for that relationship. Go to the Bible and search what it says, if you don't believe in it then it can't hurt you. How can a person get to Heaven without that forgiving relationship? They can't. I wasn't getting to heaven until I did a 360.I asked Jesus to forgive me of my everything I had done wrong and then turn from it. I realized that there is more to this world than you live and you die. There is someone out there who died for ME! Jesus didn't know me, but He died for ME! He didn't have to either. He could have let me rot in my awful sin filled life. Am I perfect, absolutely NOT! I strive every second of every day to be the best I can, but it goes back to salvation through Jesus. Anyone can be good but you have to have been forgiven to enter heaven because sin can not be in heaven. There is only one way for that to happen and that is through Jesus.
I pray that you find the answer you are looking for.

 

[GillDouglas]

No it isn't. For a start the woman might be unattached and you might be unattached. Secondly it could just be a notion. The idea that any thought of lust ultimately leads to adultery is nonsense. This is another reason why I oppose your worldview - it demonises thought.

At any point one can stop. It could stop at thought, or in action.

 

[Skavau]

At any point one can stop. It could stop at thought, or in action.

It could, but given the fact that we think about all kinds of things all of the time often simultaneously the likelihood is that 99% of lust-filled thoughts are accidental much less possibly going to lead someone anywhere.

 

[GillDouglas]

I concede. Except our target appeals are different and we don't "rail" against religion that often. Usually it's the religious who claim to be under attack when we ask for evidence or a credible case.
Everyone has a belief. Ours just so happens to not be in the area of theism. We don't have gods, nobody has gods. We believe that humans should cater to other humans based on human ideals.

You're an alright guy Grim, plus you're a gamer like me.

 

[Skavau]

Q: I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?
A: Yes.

If you were completely innocent, having never done anything bad, always acknowledging God, always obedient to him and what he requires of you then you would not yet deserve heaven because it is a gift that no creature can earn. The truth is that everything you are and everything you have is given to you by God so you can't earn anything from God as if he owed it to you. Nevertheless God is willing to give heaven to everybody who is in union with Christ Jesus the Lord by having faith in him.

So the question is: Why do we deserve hell in the first place?

 

[GillDouglas]

It could, but given the fact that we think about all kinds of things all of the time often simultaneously the likelihood is that 99% of lust-filled thoughts are accidental much less possibly going to lead someone anywhere.

Hey you're right about that. I'm a happily married man and I stumble often. I see a good looking woman and I sin in thought, but I am not condemned for making a mistake.

 

[Skavau]

Hey you're right about that. I'm a happily married man and I stumble often. I see a good looking woman and I sin in thought, but I am not condemned for making a mistake.

Do you believe that whilst unsaved a single infraction, a single bad thought, a single misdeed condemns one to eternal torture?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes. Perfect means perfect, with no flaws.

Yeah I really don't get the logic behind perfect beings that do whatever they want and not what they are told or expected to do. I get the freewill part but why would they choose to disobey? It makes no sense, like much of the rest of the story.

 

[Skavau]

I'm thinking it's more the beliefs of the other party that appears to be judgmental or offensive.

I tend to get annoyed when people tell me that I deserve to be tortured for eternity for what I think. Funny that.

Perhaps keep in mind how indefensible your belief system looks to others.

 

[GillDouglas]

Do you believe that whilst unsaved a single infraction, a single bad thought, a single misdeed condemns one to eternal torture?

From the point of view of my belief, there is nothing the unsaved can do that will condemn them other than rejecting Christ.

 

[GillDouglas]

I tend to get annoyed when people tell me that I deserve to be tortured for eternity for what I think. Funny that.

Perhaps keep in mind how indefensible your belief system looks to others.

I don't have to defend what I believe. Who's going to change my mind? You?

 

[Skavau]

From the point of view of my belief, there is nothing the unsaved can do that will condemn them other than rejecting Christ.

So your worldview has nothing to do with morality whatsoever there? The process of being saved or not being saved has nothing to do with our behaviour but merely obedience?

 

[Skavau]

I don't have to defend what I believe. Who's going to change my mind? You?

No, you don't have to do anything but you don't appear even remotely aware about how awful what it is you literally believe.

You live in a free country, a first-world secular nation. Your rights are protected by law. You are granted free speech, free expression, free association, free movement and freedom from oppression of all kinds. These rights are regarded as inalienable. You're granted them by merit of being born yet you believe ultimately that all of the liberties that you enjoy, that everyone enjoys should be thrown away and endorse a system where most of the planet is thrown into torture merely for what they think.

Your beliefs and values are more at home in Saudi Arabia than they are in the US or any European Western Nation.

 

[Kirsten]

Yes, you should. You should ask yourself why people might think your values are hateful. By not engaging in common ground, by ignoring certain opinions because of who said them or the content of what was said you open yourself up to your own prejudice, you shelter yourself from what might actually be going on and you make yourself a prisoner of your own ivory tower.

I know why people think Christianity is hateful. It's because nobody wants to be told they are a sinner. People take offense to that and accuse people of being hateful. I am the first to admit I am a sinner. I am no different from any other sinner except that I am forgiven. That is the only difference between you and me.