If God wills to give you everything what will you ask?

[Goodhuman]

So?

 

[ArmyMatt]

He doesn't. He wills to give what He will use to save us.

 

[Goodhuman]

What if we are already saved?

 

[Carl Emerson]

Obedience

 

[ArmyMatt]

What if we are already saved?

then He gives us that which helps us accept the salvation He offers

 

[Servus]

To have the wisdom and knowledge through the Holy Spirit to conduct myself according to His will.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So?

In that case, I'd ask for humility.

If you're given everything, pride is sure to follow.

 

[Jamdoc]

Healing
if I was healthy there's a lot I could do, and I would be a less bitter person
as a cripple, there's not a lot I can do and pain and disability make me bitter and pessimistic, I feel like I miss out on a lot of things, even a lot of ways to serve the Lord because I lack the ability and resources, and I fear that when I come to the judgement seat of Christ, I'll be the guy in 1 Corinthians 3:15, saved but with nothing to show for it, just the worst possible eternity while still being in heaven. the lowest of the low the "least in the kingdom of heaven"

 

[grasping the after wind]

So?

If God's will is to give me everything I don't need to ask. I need to thank.

 

[Melily]

Healing
if I was healthy there's a lot I could do, and I would be a less bitter person
as a cripple, there's not a lot I can do and pain and disability make me bitter and pessimistic, I feel like I miss out on a lot of things, even a lot of ways to serve the Lord because I lack the ability and resources, and I fear that when I come to the judgement seat of Christ, I'll be the guy in 1 Corinthians 3:15, saved but with nothing to show for it, just the worst possible eternity while still being in heaven. the lowest of the low the "least in the kingdom of heaven"

I read in a book by one about one of the Saints (forgive me but I can’t remember which one) that during health struggles he prayed to the Lord to help him be good. I’ve had my share of health struggles and now instead of praying for my health I just pray to the Lord to help me be good. It’s been quite liberating to surrender to whatever God wants rather than focusing on health. I do believe illness can sometimes help us on the path to salvation but I’m only a catechumen so feel free to ignore this if it’s not a pure orthodox perspective. I’m still learning!

 

[Phronema]

I do believe illness can sometimes help us on the path to salvation but I’m only a catechumen so feel free to ignore this if it’s not a pure orthodox perspective. I’m still learning!

You are correct regarding illness according to St. Porphyrios as it was mentioned by him, and quoted in the book "Wounded by Love: The Life and Wisdom of Elder Porphyrios" as recounted by the Sisters of the Holy Convent of Chrysopigi (Life-Giving Spring)

Here's a link with the excerpt that I'm referring to.

Excerpt from Wounded By Love: On Illness

 

[Melily]

You are correct regarding illness according to St. Porphyrios as it was mentioned by him, and quoted in the book "Wounded by Love: The Life and Wisdom of Elder Porphyrios" as recounted by the Sisters of the Holy Convent of Chrysopigi (Life-Giving Spring)

Here's a link with the excerpt that I'm referring to.

Excerpt from Wounded By Love: On Illness

Yes! That’s the book! Thank you so much.

 

[Melily]

I love this explanation on getting what we want.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Yes.. I have learned the same thing, eventually the bulk of guidance comes through sanctified desire.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I used to sing this lyric from the Rolling Stones to my children as they were growing up .
I believe God agrees with the sentiment.

"You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need"

 

[ArmyMatt]

I used to sing this lyric from the Rolling Stones to my children as they were growing up .
I believe God agrees with the sentiment.

"You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need"

definitely one of those times classic rock is spot on.

 

[Jamdoc]

View attachment 297757 I love this explanation on getting what we want.

Yes.. I have learned the same thing, eventually the bulk of guidance comes through sanctified desire.

I used to sing this lyric from the Rolling Stones to my children as they were growing up .
I believe God agrees with the sentiment.

"You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need"

I've actually always disliked that idea, because it is not consistent with how God has fulfilled needs or does not seem to be how He fulfills needs in Revelation 21 or 22.
When man has had a need God has never just said "you have me, you don't need anything else".
God has fulfilled the need/desire by providence.
When Adam was lonely, God didn't say "hey just look at me"
God created a wife for Adam, and just as Jesus said to love God, He also said to love each other. Not just love God. Human fellowship is always going to be a need and desire that we have and it is a good desire, a God given desire. (Matthew 22:37-40)

Man has needs/desires for food and drink, God provides food and drink and even Jesus desired food after being resurrected. Food even if not needed for sustenance is pleasurable to eat, especially in fellowship with others. Jesus often compared the Kingdom of Heaven to feasts and banquets, so that is a good, God given desire that God fulfills through providence, not just stare at Him and the desire and need goes away.

Even Jesus had desires other than just wanting to worship His Father. The key is they are not selfish desires. they're desires for His disciples, and for the people of Israel.

 

[Taodeching]

So?

I hope it is okay to answer here. I would ask for instant healing from anything for me and my wife and maybe ask for super powers

 

[Carl Emerson]

Even Jesus had desires other than just wanting to worship His Father. The key is they are not selfish desires. they're desires for His disciples, and for the people of Israel.

Sanctified desires are not selfish.

I learned to pray each day - Lord give me the desires to do Your will and the Grace to be obedient...

 

[Jamdoc]

Sanctified desires are not selfish.

I learned to pray each day - Lord give me the desires to do Your will and the Grace to be obedient...

Right but often people equate sanctified desires as a singular, sanctified desire just to worship and stare at the Lord for all eternity, and I just.. utterly reject that. If God had wanted us to just fall on our faces in front of Him all eternity He wouldn't have given us a garden, and He wouldn't be giving us a New Earth.