If evolution is real, then where is it?

[pakicetus]

Please supply the names and contact details for a dozen or more of the 500 alleged witnesses

If I did that, what would be the point of faith?

 

[MoreCoffee]

If I did that, what would be the point of faith?

It would amuse me to see the list

 

[pakicetus]

It would amuse me to see the list

Why? You won't believe me anyway. No standard of proof is good enough for you skeptics. Now obviously I can't know that for sure, because no proof has ever been presented to you, but I can say it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Why? You won't believe me anyway. No standard of proof is good enough for you skeptics. Now obviously I can't know that for sure, because no proof has ever been presented to you, but I can say it.

Sceptical about the journey to Mars on a winged blueberry? Never

 

[AV1611VET]

Just because the Bible says over 500 people saw whatever that verse was talking about doesn't mean it's true. Anybody could claim 500 people saw anything.

How about going to their deaths refusing to recant?

 

[PsychoSarah]

How about going to their deaths refusing to recant?

Yup. I could totally make that up and write it in a book.

 

[Queller]

I wonder why He documented that He did it in six days?

He didn't. Inspired but fallible men did.

 

[pakicetus]

How about going to their deaths refusing to recant?

How do you know that happened? Even if it did happen, how do you know they had a good reason to hold the belief they were martyred for? Some people really are willing to die for beliefs that are completely unsubstantiated, especially when those beliefs are religious. See: Muslim suicide bombers and the Heaven's Gate cult, plus many other examples.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yup. I could totally make that up and write it in a book.

But you'd only be copying the work of somebody else who wrote the story of Christ's resurrection from the dead long before you were born.

 

[PsychoSarah]

But you'd only be copying the work of somebody else who wrote the story of Christ's resurrection from the dead long before you were born.

-_- you act as if there were no resurrection stories before the bible was written. Noah's Ark story is almost complete plagiarism of another, more ancient myth.

 

[AV1611VET]

-_- you act as if there were no resurrection stories before the bible was written. Noah's Ark story is almost complete plagiarism of another, more ancient myth.

No.

If you're referring to the Epic of Gilgamesh, how is it that the Sumerian empire existed before Noah, when according to the Bible it was built by Noah's great-grandson?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why? You won't believe me anyway. No standard of proof is good enough for you skeptics. Now obviously I can't know that for sure, because no proof has ever been presented to you, but I can say it.

No, we have given reasonable standards of evidence. There are no contemporary sources that mention Jesus, or the supposed darkness, or the zombies that arose a day and a half after the crucifixion. If the claims of the N.T, were true one would expect to see at least one of these if not all of them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No.

If you're referring to the Epic of Gilgamesh, how is it that the Sumerian empire existed before Noah, when according to the Bible it was built by Noah's great-grandson?

Because the Bible story is copied from the Sumerians. The Sumerian empire was not built by Noah's grandsons since he was a fictional character.

 

[Parogar]

Just because the Bible says over 500 people saw whatever that verse was talking about doesn't mean it's true. Anybody could claim 500 people saw anything.

Yesterday I flew to Mars on a winged blueberry. Over five hundred people saw me do it. How can you not believe me?

I mean seriously! If the Quran said 500 people saw Muhammad split the moon in half, how much more credible would that make the story? Would you convert to Islam if it said that?

No. I don't care what you say. It has to be old and written down for me to believe it.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I was pretty sure that obvious Poe is obvious.

Here's a riddle: Is an obvious Poe actually a Poe?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[PsychoSarah]

No.

If you're referring to the Epic of Gilgamesh, how is it that the Sumerian empire existed before Noah, when according to the Bible it was built by Noah's great-grandson?

That wouldn't change the fact that the Sumerian text predates the bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

That wouldn't change the fact that the Sumerian text predates the bible.

QV please:

I don't think it takes a Rhodes scholar to see that Nimrod wasn't even present during the Flood; but Shem ... who lived right up to the time of Jacob ... was.

As I have said before, I can envision Shem and Nimrod having one doosey of an argument over "Nimrod's garbage".

Probably going something like this:

Shem: What's this trash you wrote, Nimrod; are you okay!?
Nimrod: Don't start on me again, uncle; you've always looked down on us Hamites.
Shem: That's garbage too! You used to be a mighty hunter before the LORD, what went wrong?
Nimrod: You think you Shemites are so much better than us, just because my grandfather was cursed for what his father did to your father in that tent that day.
Shem: I watched you grow up, Nimrod, and how you used to love the LORD so much; but somewhere along the line you went astray and broke away from the rest of us and went and formed your own little empire. Well ... you do what you want, but as long as I live, I'll make sure my eyewitness testimony trumps your lies.
Nimrod: And what makes you an authority on the Flood over me?
Shem: I was there! Remember??? I was on the Ark ... you weren't!
Nimrod: Oh, that's right ... somehow I forgot ... what with there being no evidence and all.
Shem: [facepalms]

 

[ivanc0]

LoL isn't evolution like faith after all?
-LOOK AT ALL THE EVOLUTION AROUND US!...
-But, where?, I don't see evolution anywhere, I just see animals like they are and they give birth to their kind.
-Just because you don't see it it doesn't mean it isn't real!! Just wait millions of years and you will see it, you filthy christian retrograd!!

You insult people and call yourself Christian?, is not that attitude what Jesus forbid.?

 

[MoreCoffee]

-_- you act as if there were no resurrection stories before the bible was written. Noah's Ark story is almost complete plagiarism of another, more ancient myth.

It is true that there were no resurrections like Christ's before he came into the world and as far as I know there's been none since he came into the world - though there were those who were assumed into heaven.

 

[Oafman]

It is true that there were no resurrections like Christ's before he came into the world

Actually there are quite a few similar examples. Osiris, the ancient Egyptian God, was betrayed and murdered by a friend. He rose from the dead and ascended to the heavens.

and as far as I know there's been none since he came into the world

Odin was resurrected centuries later. I imagine there are plenty more but this is not really my area

Here's a riddle: Is an obvious Poe actually a Poe?

Yes I too have been struggling with the Poe Paradox for some time!