If booster is useless or worse, what is the point of any of this?

miamited · Dec 29, 2021

Hi all,

I leave this thread and just warn others to be careful and check what the OP is posting as links to support his ideas. So far, not a one of them have said anything about boosters being useless or dangerous.

God bless,
Ted

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

renniks said:
The point is control over what you can do, even down to whether you can gather with your family.

Then resistance seems to be in order. At least in mind and heart.

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

miamited said:
Hi @power1

Of course, once again, that isn't what the linked article says. It merely says that the good Dr. is not on board with mandates, because the vaccines are not yet licensed and authorized. Therefore, he feels they are still in the experimental phase and shouldn't be mandated because they are not fully tested and licensed. Nothing in that article says anything about the good Dr. 'exposing risks of covid-19 vaccines'.

Sorry, wrong again.

God bless,
Ted

Maybe you should apply for editor there? You can nit pick the headlines, and if any slight meaning is off, you can offer your opinion as a fact check!

rturner76 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
Still, I take gossip with a grain of salt.

Even when it has an independently verifiable source apparently.

power1 said:
Any other excuses?

Yes, the majority of the stories have unverified sources and amount to editorials. These sites aren't considered "news" but "news entertainment."

power1 said:
The Post and the Times have had to retract stories or have been sued over allegedly false or defamatory claims.

Right, because if they print something that isn't true, they have to fix it because there are FCC rules about shows that call themselves news. Rules that don't bind people with conspiracy websites.

power1 said:
How does the vax help if it..well, doesn't matter?

The point is it DOES matter. For one, less people get sick from covid and two, when people do get a breakthrough case, they usually don't end up in the hospital where all of the unvaccinated lay dying.

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

miamited said:
Hi @power1

No you aren't. You're talking about Israel which is neither almost totally vaxxed nor has it been 'hit with some of the highest sick numbers'.

What you're doing is making things up that sound good to you and twisting articles to make some non-sensical point.

God bless,
Ted

Some Countries With The Highest Vaccination Rates Are Facing A Surge In Covid Deaths And Infections–Experts Say Complacency Is Partly To Blame

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

miamited said:
Hi all,

I leave this thread and just warn others to be careful and check what the OP is posting as links to support his ideas. So far, not a one of them have said anything about boosters being useless or dangerous.

God bless,
Ted

49-year-old N.Y. Times editor dies 'less than a day' after COVID shot

cow451 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
What more do we need?

Credible evidence would be a good start.

cow451 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
49-year-old N.Y. Times editor dies 'less than a day' after COVID shot

What did the autopsy say?

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

rturner76 said:
Even when it has an independently verifiable source apparently.

Like this?
Notoriously inaccurate Facebook 'fact-checker' slammed again, this time on masking kids

Yes, the majority of the stories have unverified sources and amount to editorials. These sites aren't considered "news" but "news entertainment."

As is CNN and etc

Right, because if they print something that isn't true, they have to fix it because there are FCC rules about shows that call themselves news. Rules that don't bind people with conspiracy websites.

Show a few of those rules that only apply to cnn?

The point is it DOES matter. For one, less people get sick from covid and two, when people do get a breakthrough case, they usually don't end up in the hospital where all of the unvaccinated lay dying.

That is something they choose. Many apparently died who could have maybe been saved by life saving alternative treatments that were denied.

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

cow451 said:
Credible evidence would be a good start.

The issue what the positions or Trump versus his successors. On the issue of sacrificing babies that is a matter of public record. The current regime is gung ho, all in for abortion. On the election issue, evidence for media bias is about as hard to find as sand on a beach.

cow451 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
On the election issue, evidence for media bias is about as hard to find as sand on a beach.

Bias ain't evidence. But one has to argue something in the absence of facts.

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

cow451 said:
What did the autopsy say?

I give up, what was it?

power1 · Dec 29, 2021

cow451 said:
Bias ain't evidence. But one has to argue something in the absence of facts.

Bias is evidence of bias! As for facts, who says mainstream media recognizes those?

cow451 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
I give up, what was it?

I thought that’s how we would know the cause of death.

cow451 · Dec 29, 2021

power1 said:
Bias is evidence of bias! As for facts, who says mainstream media recognizes those?

The courts haven’t recognized any of your “facts”. Are they biased? Or do they have like, standards for evidence. Not good for your guy who took a butt whipping in the 2020 free and fair Presidential election.

ThisIsMe123 · Dec 30, 2021

miamited said:
Hi all,

I leave this thread and just warn others to be careful and check what the OP is posting as links to support his ideas. So far, not a one of them have said anything about boosters being useless or dangerous.

God bless,
Ted

I'm no sure, but I think I recall the admins locking a thread like this one due to an unreliable source being posted.

rturner76 · Dec 30, 2021

power1 said:
Like this?
Notoriously inaccurate Facebook 'fact-checker' slammed again, this time on masking kids

Facebook is not broadcast news. An individual can say anything they like. One hint is if the facts being checked are wrong, it wasn't really fact checked was it? They need to site a verifiable source.

power1 said:
As is CNN and etc

Yes, any news cast or paper that posts an editorial, it is considered opinion. No matter who is broadcasting.

power1 said:
Show a few of those rules that only apply to cnn?

It applies to any broadcast news organization. Conspiracy websites are not covered.
Broadcasting false content during news programming
The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge. For more information, please see our consumer guide, Complaints About Broadcast Journalism.
Broadcasting False Information

power1 said:
That is something they choose. Many apparently died who could have maybe been saved by life saving alternative treatments that were denied.

Nobody is denied alternative medicine if they seek it out. The problem is when your lungs fill with fluid people tend to call 911 before their local Shaman.

rturner76 · Dec 30, 2021

ThisIsMe123 said:
I'm no sure, but I think I recall the admins locking a thread like this one due to an unreliable source being posted.

They also made a rule about calling covid a "hoax" due to so many having lost loved ones. It is upsetting for someone whose mother had died from covid complications.

power1 · Dec 30, 2021

rturner76 said:
Facebook is not broadcast news. An individual can say anything they like. One hint is if the facts being checked are wrong, it wasn't really fact checked was it? They need to site a verifiable source.

Did you think CNN had as many viewers? You don't get to declare some sources of news as 'reliable' Others would say that are reliably bias and wrong.

It applies to any broadcast news organization. Conspiracy websites are not covered.
Broadcasting false content during news programming
The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge. For more information, please see our consumer guide, Complaints About Broadcast Journalism.

Unless the mainstream news has been distorting news accidentally, it is guilty!

Broadcasting False Information
Nobody is denied alternative medicine if they seek it out. The problem is when your lungs fill with fluid people tend to call 911 before their local Shaman.

If what, they have lawyers present at the bed in the hospital, and money, and are lucid, etc etc? Let's face it they are denied.

rturner76 · Dec 30, 2021

power1 said:
Did you think CNN had as many viewers? You don't get to declare some sources of news as 'reliable' Others would say that are reliably bias and wrong.

Others just don't like the stories they cover. They must always retract a story that cannot be verified unless it's an editorial. Even then, they can't out and out lie without having trouble with the FCC.

power1 said:
Unless the mainstream news has been distorting news accidentally, it is guilty!

What they are doing is exposing the lies people you like are telling.

power1 said:
If what, they have lawyers present at the bed in the hospital, and money, and are lucid, etc etc? Let's face it they are denied.

Insurance often does not pay for many forms of alternative medicine. They only pay for mainstream medicine because the outcomes are more verifiable. Meaning insurance only pays for things that are proven to work. I don't know what lawyers are waiting by people's hospital beds for. Maybe they are there to tell them they should have been vaccinated, then they either wouldn't have caught it or it would have been much less symptomatic.

If booster is useless or worse, what is the point of any of this?

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