If a tsunami tilted the earth what could a global flood do?

[Praxiteles]

I don't think it's fair (or accurate) to call A4C a troll.

He thinks he's doing his duty, I think.

 

[Hungry Hungry Hippo]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, MORON, trolls are MYTHICOLOGICAL creatures, not REAL. HE IS A HUMAN YOU STOOPED!!! ONLY HUMANS CAN TYPE IN COMPUTERS... and super intelligent mice.

 

[Praxiteles]

Hyperintelligent shades of blue. They also can use computer keyboards.

Trolls aren't oncological anyway. Otherwise my sandwich would have dried out, and I hate dried out sandwiches.

Therefore, evolvleation is false!

 

[A4C]

You... just... do... not... listen. Do you?

Even if the earth were exactly the same as it was today, with ice caps, and deep oceans, it could still not absorb enough of the energy released to prevent it all from boiling. And you postulate a world that is already warmer, with less deep oceans and no ice caps!

On the contrary perhaps you are the one not listening. What I have stated is that in many respects the earth was significantly different pre flood compared to now There were much more tropical growth perhaps covering all of the earths surface (which was a necessity to support a large dinosaur population). There would be much more of that growth and it would be at higher altitude because it would be growing in good soils that once covered higher ground. That soil would now be the basis of the sediment layers now at significantly lower altitudes.
Now without that difference I might aknowledge that you have a point but your continual PRATT ing ignoring these changes is wearing just a little thin

 

[Praxiteles]

On the contrary perhaps you are the one not listening. What I have stated is that in many respects the earth was significantly different pre flood compared to now There were much more tropical growth perhaps covering all of the earths surface (which was a necessity to support a large dinosaur population). There would be much more of that growth and it would be at higher altitude because it would be growing in good soils that once covered higher ground. That soil would now be the basis of the sediment layers now at significantly lower altitudes.
Now without that difference I might aknowledge that you have a point but your continual PRATT ing ignoring these changes is wearing just a little thin

Yes, I know you keep stating that the earth was significantly different.

So what?

No matter what state it was in, it would soon have reached a temperature beyond that at which life could survive.

You can keep stating the the earth was different then all day if you like. It wouldn't alter the fact the it would all have been turned into superheated soup.

 

[A4C]

This would be enough to fry the earth.

Rubbish
There is only one source of energy available to "fry" this earth -the sun
Now could you explain in terms that make sense how that energy source suddenly increases in strength if there is a water canopy

 

[Praxiteles]

Rubbish
There is only one source of energy available to "fry" this earth -the sun
Now could you explain in terms that make sense how that energy source suddenly increases in strength if there is a water canopy

Rubbish.

Increased air pressure.

Water condensing from vapour.

Water from subterranean vaults.

All of these things would have released enough energy to destroy life on earth, either on their own or in concert.

The sun need have no direct impact.

 

[Hungry Hungry Hippo]

Rubbish
There is only one source of energy available to "fry" this earth -the sun
Now could you explain in terms that make sense how that energy source suddenly increases in strength if there is a water canopy

Seriously, dude, pressure cooker.

Maybe this will help you understand.

 

[nvxplorer]

On the contrary perhaps you are the one not listening. What I have stated is that in many respects the earth was significantly different pre flood compared to now There were much more tropical growth perhaps covering all of the earths surface (which was a necessity to support a large dinosaur population). There would be much more of that growth and it would be at higher altitude because it would be growing in good soils that once covered higher ground. That soil would now be the basis of the sediment layers now at significantly lower altitudes.
Now without that difference I might aknowledge that you have a point but your continual PRATT ing ignoring these changes is wearing just a little thin

The thing you're missing is that the pre-flood environment was different than what you've stated. The lush forests existed primarily on land masses near the Indian Ocean. The dinosaurs survived mostly on grass, and they shared the land with the buffalo and zebra. There was an infestation of microscopic pladulae about 300 years before Noah's birth. Therefore all rain that would have fallen in a global flood had remnants of this infestation. Now, the dinosaurs eventually built up an immunity, which is in the fossil record, but that didn't bode well for the zebra. We're not sure whether it affected the buffalo. (There are hints in ancient Sioux lore, but nothing definitive.) Anyway, if this global flood did happen like you say, there would be traces of pladulae in buffalo fossils, yet none have been found. Therefore, the flood probally didn't happen.

 

[Praxiteles]

Seriously, dude, pressure cooker.

Maybe this will help you understand.

It certainly helped me.

Do you have her number?

 

[Sheseala]

If the vapor canopy was thin enough to see stars through, then there isn't enough water to cover the earth. Here's a fun math problem: During the 40 days, what was the cm/hr? What would it have to be in order to cover the earth?

If you say that the fountains of the deep opened up, then the pressurized water would have heated the world up. It would take quite the pressure as water doesn't compress very easily, and having enough to erupt until it covered the earth and have it continue to fill space below the earth. Plus, sections would collapse due to the support the water gave suddenly leaving.

Forgive my grammar and spelling, brain only half on this late...

 

[A4C]

Yes, I know you keep stating that the earth was significantly different.

So what?

No matter what state it was in, it would soon have reached a temperature beyond that at which life could survive.

You can keep stating the the earth was different then all day if you like. It wouldn't alter the fact the it would all have been turned into superheated soup.

OK so taking into consideration the changs I have alluded to explain how the same sun pre flood would have taken on a reverse role to what it has now ie less rain forest conditions more global warming

Note: Your reasoning says "More rain forest conditions more global warming."

One of us is wrong about global warming and I suspect it is you

 

[Praxiteles]

I'm sorry... What does global warming have to do with this?

 

[corvus_corax]

The vapour canopy covering the earth was not miles thick as you suppose because at least stars could be seen through it.
I think you better do your calculations again this time taking into consideration the distribution of global surface water, soil coverage and vegetation and the amout of energy available and its absorption.

So I checked out AiG's flood model, per your suggestion (see? somebody took your suggestion )

They suggest you go silent about the "vapour canopy".
To quote from AiG-
"Further modeling suggested that a maximum of 2 meters (6.5 feet) of water could be held in such a canopy, even if all relevant factors were adjusted to the best possible values to maximize the amount of water stored. Such a reduced canopy would not significantly contribute to the 40 days and nights of rain at the beginning of the Flood.
Many creation scientists are now either abandoning the water vapor canopy model or no longer see any need for such a concept"

 

[Hungry Hungry Hippo]

I bet that the immense pressure wouldn't be a problem if Noah had some mag wheels, man that would be sweet.

 

[Lucretius]

For the flood to be true, it would have to rain 15 feet per hour, for 40 days.

 

[Hungry Hungry Hippo]

The flood didn't deal with physics, it dealt with superphysics, which are a step or two more haphazzardous than "normal" physics. We simply cannot model such an increddible event with namby pamby 2005 physics, we need a chainsaw and some old furniture. I'll show ya' a flood. A flood of sawdust.

 

[Sheseala]

Heh, bit higher than the 500 yr storm...

 

[Praxiteles]

For the flood to be true, it would have to rain 15 feet per hour, for 40 days.

For the flood to be true, the earth would resemble Venus.

 

[A4C]

For the flood to be true, it would have to rain 15 feet per hour, for 40 days.

On what land mass distribution have you calculated that on?