ICE to deport persecuted Iraqi Christians

[Raphael Jauregui]

Under the Trump administration and the various policies that amount to different bans they are putting in place, hundreds of persecuted Iraqi Christian refugees could be deported and sent back to the countries in which their lives were threatened. Prayers ascending for them.

Please read the articles before claiming it is not true. This is coming from ICE, the Iraqi government, and other official sources.

US Prepares to Deport Hundreds of Iraqi Christians

Iraqi Christians among victims of Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' | Christian News on Christian Today

 

[Hank77]

Immigration officials claim all of those arrested had criminal convictions and it appears the mass detentions are linked to Trump's stalled travel ban.
Iraqi Christians among victims of Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' | Christian News on Christian Today

This does not have anything to do with the 'travel ban'.

It is an immigration policy that Trump said he would order and he did.
ICE has been detaining criminals being released from jails and prisons that are not here legally. It does not matter what their religion is or where they are originally from.
They cannot deport some and allow others to stay because they say they are Christians, that would be unconstitutional.
If they allow some to stay because they will be endanger in their home country then they would have to do the same for all those who would be endanger from drug cartels, etc. in other dangerous countries.

 

[Raphael Jauregui]

Immigration officials claim all of those arrested had criminal convictions and it appears the mass detentions are linked to Trump's stalled travel ban.
Iraqi Christians among victims of Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' | Christian News on Christian Today

This does not have anything to do with the 'travel ban'.

It is an immigration policy that Trump said he would order and he did.
ICE has been detaining criminals being released from jails and prisons that are not here legally. It does not matter what their religion is or where they are originally from.
They cannot deport some and allow others to stay because they say they are Christians, that would be unconstitutional.
If they allow some to stay because they will be endanger in their home country then they would have to do the same for all those who would be endanger from drug cartels, etc. in other dangerous countries.

I did not even mention a travel ban in my post; however, yes, it is related to that and saying that it's not does not make it so. An ostrich hiding its head in the sand does not mean that the outside world is gone. What Trump is doing here is going after anyone and deporting them including those who are innocent and who are refugees fleeing persecution because of their faith or ethnicity. In this case, Trump's ICE rules are now going to send persecuted Christians back to be persecuted where they face genocide.

Also, this particular forum is "Whosoever May Come - Liberal." The purpose here is for liberals to share what we are feeling, thinking, reasoning, and to pray about it etc. The purpose is not to argue. I'd suggest no arguing then. There is the General Politics and Current Events forums for that.

 

[hedrick]

Immigration officials claim all of those arrested had criminal convictions and it appears the mass detentions are linked to Trump's stalled travel ban.
Iraqi Christians among victims of Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' | Christian News on Christian Today

This does not have anything to do with the 'travel ban'.

It is an immigration policy that Trump said he would order and he did.
ICE has been detaining criminals being released from jails and prisons that are not here legally. It does not matter what their religion is or where they are originally from.
They cannot deport some and allow others to stay because they say they are Christians, that would be unconstitutional.
If they allow some to stay because they will be endanger in their home country then they would have to do the same for all those who would be endanger from drug cartels, etc. in other dangerous countries.

I don't think there's any good choice here. But US law prioritizes certain types of refugees. My layman's reading says that people who have well-founded fear of persecution for religious reasons fall into one of the categories, and those who are afraid because their country is dangerous don't.

However it's up to the administration how to administer the laws. Have the people involved applied for refugee status? Is the government being reasonable in dealing with them? How about people who arrived without going through the process? Legally we can send them back, but there are good arguments for allowing someone who is technically illegal to start an application once they're here. Are we currently allowing that?

There are just lots of things we need to know both about the people and about the way applications are being handled.

 

[Hank77]

I don't think there's any good choice here. But US law prioritizes certain types of refugees. My layman's reading says that people who have well-founded fear of persecution for religious reasons fall into one of the categories, and those who are afraid because their country is dangerous don't.

However it's up to the administration how to administer the laws. Have the people involved applied for refugee status? Is the government being reasonable in dealing with them? How about people who arrived without going through the process? Legally we can send them back, but there are good arguments for allowing someone who is technically illegal to start an application once they're here. Are we currently allowing that?

There are just lots of things we need to know both about the people and about the way applications are being handled.

I agree with everything you have said.
But to say that an illegal who has committed a serious felony should not be sent back to a place that is dangerous for them simply because they are a Christian does not make any sense.
There are people in prison for dealing drugs who testified against drug cartels for a lesser sentence. If they are sent back to say Columbia they are going to be killed. What is the difference?

 

[Solomons Porch]

My prayers are offered and the ostrich scenario makes perfect sense

Trump's ICE rules are now going to send persecuted Christians back to be persecuted where they face genocide.

and to pray about it etc

 

[hedrick]

There are people in prison for dealing drugs who testified against drug cartels for a lesser sentence. If they are sent back to say Columbia they are going to be killed. What is the difference?

The law. It prioritizes people who are refugees for particular reasons.