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IBM clone vs. Mac

I use a

  • IBM clone

  • Mac

  • None of the above

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The only thing I'd really use a MAC for would be graphics, and possibly networking [although I'd rather use BSD/Solaris or Linux on an IBM compat machine]. Mac is already becoming too proprietary for my tastes, though I like the BSD based operating system. And KDE, by far, looks better than either OSX or WinXP, IMHO.
 
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intricatic said:
The only thing I'd really use a MAC for would be graphics, and possibly networking [although I'd rather use BSD/Solaris or Linux on an IBM compat machine]. Mac is already becoming too proprietary for my tastes, though I like the BSD based operating system. And KDE, by far, looks better than either OSX or WinXP, IMHO.
I'd like for GNOME to catch up to KDE when it comes to visual zing. The K button is too much like the Start button if you ask me. Apple's Dock is different but no better.
 
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twistedsketch said:
I'd like for GNOME to catch up to KDE when it comes to visual zing. The K button is too much like the Start button if you ask me. Apple's Dock is different but no better.

On XP you can always get ObjectDock and have both a start menu and a dock. :D
 
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twistedsketch said:
I'd like for GNOME to catch up to KDE when it comes to visual zing. The K button is too much like the Start button if you ask me. Apple's Dock is different but no better.
Yeah, but it's intuitive, which is why that design is so popular. I don't mind it, I think that the advancement of GUI design is probably always going to run along the same dimensions, it's the functionality of the operating system itself that concerns me the most. ;)
 
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renaistre said:
On XP you can always get ObjectDock and have both a start menu and a dock. :D
Wow, the worst of both worlds. I took a look at some other Object Desktop programs and made a note not to download this one.

I'm so dissapointed with Litestep though . . .
 
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intricatic said:
Yeah, but it's intuitive, which is why that design is so popular. I don't mind it, I think that the advancement of GUI design is probably always going to run along the same dimensions, it's the functionality of the operating system itself that concerns me the most. ;)
Intuitive because Microsoft pitched it that way?

I honestly wouldn't mind XP's "new" Start button if it was split into two buttons. One column only, please. But no, they pile it all into one button. The only thing I've seen worse than this is a screenshot of Suse, where theirs is even bigger and takes up a third of the screen.
 
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twistedsketch said:
Intuitive because Microsoft pitched it that way?

I honestly wouldn't mind XP's "new" Start button if it was split into two buttons. One column only, please. But no, they pile it all into one button. The only thing I've seen worse than this is a screenshot of Suse, where theirs is even bigger and takes up a third of the screen.
I use KDE on SuSE all the time and I haven't seen that. :scratch: Must be a different theme than I use.

No, it's intuitive because it actually is. The simpler the interface, the better. Not really about user-friendliness, but more about making it more aesthetically appealing.

As far as customization goes, though, KDE is definitely the most versatile of all the GUI designs I've seen. You can do some twisted stuff with it.
 
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intricatic said:
I use KDE on SuSE all the time and I haven't seen that. :scratch: Must be a different theme than I use.

No, it's intuitive because it actually is. The simpler the interface, the better. Not really about user-friendliness, but more about making it more aesthetically appealing.

As far as customization goes, though, KDE is definitely the most versatile of all the GUI designs I've seen. You can do some twisted stuff with it.
Like splitting the K button into multiple buttons? Or creating menus?

:sigh: Mac OS 9 had some really cool interface features, it's too bad they are no longer used (out of the box, anyway).
 
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twistedsketch said:
Like splitting the K button into multiple buttons? Or creating menus?

:sigh: Mac OS 9 had some really cool interface features, it's too bad they are no longer used (out of the box, anyway).
Creating menus is a snap, but splitting the buttons - that's something I've never tried, so i can't say whether it's easy or not.... I know it's possible, though. :D

http://www.kde-look.org/ <--- large collection of themes, and groovy additions / improvements / styles for KDE.
 
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intricatic said:
Creating menus is a snap, but splitting the buttons - that's something I've never tried, so i can't say whether it's easy or not.... I know it's possible, though. :D

http://www.kde-look.org/ <--- large collection of themes, and groovy additions / improvements / styles for KDE.
Well, if anybody's done it successfully and created a theme or something where you've got multiple buttons or you can take stuff out of the K button, I'll be all ears.

As for the site, not bad. Maybe if Linux supported the programs I need, I'd give it a spin.
 
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intricatic said:
Hey, they're still IBM clones. :D

Just you wait, when Linux takes over the server market and starts making headway into the PC market, IBM will be resurrected! :cool:
What's ironic is that for the past few years Macs had been using IBM chips until the recent switch to Intel.
 
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twistedsketch said:
What's ironic is that for the past few years Macs had been using IBM chips until the recent switch to Intel.
Mac and IBM are both big proponents of *NIX archetecture in software, so it's not really surprising. ;) But Intel? Man... soon, all computers will be Intel.
 
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intricatic said:
Mac and IBM are both big proponents of *NIX archetecture in software, so it's not really surprising. ;) But Intel? Man... soon, all computers will be Intel.
Unless AMD can come up with something GOOD to counter the Core 2 Duo, you're right.
 
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twistedsketch said:
Unless AMD can come up with something GOOD to counter the Core 2 Duo, you're right.
I somehow doubt they will, or they will but it'll be so proprietary or expensive to implement that it'll make it impractical. Seems to be a big trend in computer technology.
 
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