IBM clone vs. Mac

[Weasel7711]

Im a gamer so obviously I am using a PC with modifications, I suprisingly didnt build this from scratch... im poor...

 

[LOVEthroughINTELLECT]

Does anybody other than me not completely trust computer games?

You know...I'll be playing Risk and in the middle of a game the computer will give me extra armies that I do not deserve. If I end up winning the game I feel like I did not really earn it (and trust me, it is extremely difficult beating those ruthless Artificial Intelligence opponents). I wonder if there isn't some similar glitch in every computer game that I play. The Monopoly makes the transactions so fast that I have to trust that it is doing the math right.

The graphics, sounds and all of that are nice, but I prefer sitting down at a table and playing a board game or card game. I have more control over the game that way.

Does anybody else feel this way?

 

[Willtor]

Does anybody other than me not completely trust computer games?

You know...I'll be playing Risk and in the middle of a game the computer will give me extra armies that I do not deserve. If I end up winning the game I feel like I did not really earn it (and trust me, it is extremely difficult beating those ruthless Artificial Intelligence opponents). I wonder if there isn't some similar glitch in every computer game that I play. The Monopoly makes the transactions so fast that I have to trust that it is doing the math right.

The graphics, sounds and all of that are nice, but I prefer sitting down at a table and playing a board game or card game. I have more control over the game that way.

Does anybody else feel this way?

Depends on the game. I like Star Fleet Battles and Axis and Allies on a table rather than on the computer. But I really like real-time strategy games like Myth and Myth II (not Myst and Myst II; Myth and Myth II). And I can't imagine trying to play Morrowind on a table.

 

[intricatic]

Well, Fallout is the best game I've ever played, but also the most irritating. The randomness of the AI is just the reverse; they end up doing horrible things to you, and you're left wondering why...

Like, you walk into a town, and the NPC's just randomly decide to all start shooting you for no concievable reason.

 

[Grunt]

I'd rather wait for the games to come out while using a superior computer than have the games immediately while realizing I'm using a inferior one.

Funny thing, I just took a browse through Apple's site. The closest G5 that I can build to my comp cost over $1000 more ($3200 vs $2000 - 60% more expensive), which isn't even taking into account the fact that I built mine over 6 months ago, so a comperable system today is significantly cheaper - or you can get a better system for the same price.
For all of that, the G5 is using an inferior processor (Dualcore PowerPC 2.3Ghz vs Athlon64x2 4400) and inferior video card (GF7800GT vs GF7800GTX), and lacks the options and exandability of my comp. Not to mention it's running an OS now shown to be slower than WinXP.

Really, Macs have their good points, but you should give the fanboi-ism a rest.

 

[intricatic]

Funny thing, I just took a browse through Apple's site. The closest G5 that I can build to my comp cost over $1000 more ($3200 vs $2000 - 60% more expensive), which isn't even taking into account the fact that I built mine over 6 months ago, so a comperable system today is significantly cheaper - or you can get a better system for the same price.
For all of that, the G5 is using an inferior processor (Dualcore PowerPC 2.3Ghz vs Athlon64x2 4400) and inferior video card (GF7800GT vs GF7800GTX), and lacks the options and exandability of my comp. Not to mention it's running an OS now shown to be slower than WinXP.

Really, Macs have their good points, but you should give the fanboi-ism a rest.

Agreed.

 

[AceHero]

I'd rather wait for the games to come out while using a superior computer than have the games immediately while realizing I'm using a inferior one.

Funny thing, I just took a browse through Apple's site. The closest G5 that I can build to my comp cost over $1000 more ($3200 vs $2000 - 60% more expensive), which isn't even taking into account the fact that I built mine over 6 months ago, so a comperable system today is significantly cheaper - or you can get a better system for the same price.
For all of that, the G5 is using an inferior processor (Dualcore PowerPC 2.3Ghz vs Athlon64x2 4400) and inferior video card (GF7800GT vs GF7800GTX), and lacks the options and exandability of my comp.

That's why you wait to see what they release as the Intel-successor to the PowerMac line this summer.

Not to mention it's running an OS now shown to be slower than WinXP.

Well, I certainly didn't expect Apple's very first Intel venture to be flawless...c'mon, these are the first Mactels! I didn't think they'd be perfect when they first came out, after a decade of running on IBM chips.

 

[Sketcher]

That's why you wait to see what they release as the Intel-successor to the PowerMac line this summer.

The Core Duos aren't spectacular, though. They're not bad, but they're not spectacular.

The Core 2 Duos will slay everything else in terms of performance, but we'll be waiting a bit longer for them.

 

[Willtor]

That's why you wait to see what they release as the Intel-successor to the PowerMac line this summer.

Well, I certainly didn't expect Apple's very first Intel venture to be flawless...c'mon, these are the first Mactels! I didn't think they'd be perfect when they first came out, after a decade of running on IBM chips.

Yeah, I was going to say. Comparing OS X and Win XP on an Intel architecture is meaningful but it's hardly conclusive. I'd kind of like to see how XP runs on IBM G5s (vs. OS X). We'll have to wait until Apple has better compilers and libraries for the new processors, and until it's not cross-compiling for compatibility, anymore (universal binaries).

 

[jhollas]

I'm amazed to see how many of my friends are ditching their iBooks and PowerBooks so fast, in order to get the new MacBook/MacBook Pros.
I think it's going to be a while before those machines are fully optimised, and while it's nice having the newest thing on the market, though ultimately expensive, it's not possible with Apple, because when they make a change, they overhaul the whole product line!
Personally, I'm going to wait a bit before I upgrade my trusty iBook!

 

[Willtor]

I'm amazed to see how many of my friends are ditching their iBooks and PowerBooks so fast, in order to get the new MacBook/MacBook Pros.
I think it's going to be a while before those machines are fully optimised, and while it's nice having the newest thing on the market, though ultimately expensive, it's not possible with Apple, because when they make a change, they overhaul the whole product line!
Personally, I'm going to wait a bit before I upgrade my trusty iBook!

Even if I had the money, I always try to wait a generation until most of the major bugs have been worked out. Early adopters are awesome people, but I can't rationalize buying something fundamentally new as soon as it comes out. It's going to be the same with the Wii (haha! I said wee. Haha!).

 

[Macrina]

I'm amazed to see how many of my friends are ditching their iBooks and PowerBooks so fast, in order to get the new MacBook/MacBook Pros.
I think it's going to be a while before those machines are fully optimised, and while it's nice having the newest thing on the market, though ultimately expensive, it's not possible with Apple, because when they make a change, they overhaul the whole product line!
Personally, I'm going to wait a bit before I upgrade my trusty iBook!

Yep, I'm right there with ya. First, because I'm not made of money. Also, because I'll wait till they've worked out all (well some, lol) of the kinks before I make the change.

 

[Grunt]

Yeah, I was going to say. Comparing OS X and Win XP on an Intel architecture is meaningful but it's hardly conclusive. I'd kind of like to see how XP runs on IBM G5s (vs. OS X). We'll have to wait until Apple has better compilers and libraries for the new processors, and until it's not cross-compiling for compatibility, anymore (universal binaries).

Never mind that windows has been dealing with compatibility from day 1