i want a straight up answer from YEC's

LittleNipper · Sep 14, 2005

TheBigAl said:
So, if an explanation for a natural occurrence is to difficult to understand, you ignore it and hide behind the idea of Goddidit?

Life does not survive extreem massive pressure, an explosion and super heat. Life is not a "natural" occurrence in the universe (if anything really is). Life is SUPERNATURAL. If life was not supernatural, we would be able to see it occur today and/or we would be able to create it. The explanation that nature just happened is not entirely logical. I'm not hiding for anything or anyone...

Ilovecartoons · Sep 14, 2005

z3ro said:
Oh, and what is a kind, exactly?

Sauropods are one KIND of dinosaur. Dogs are one KIND of carnivoure. Ankylosaurs are one kind of dinosaur. Etc.

Ilovecartoons · Sep 14, 2005

z3ro said:
How is this an indicator of complexity?

The more complicated something is, the longer it takes to learn it.

Loudmouth · Sep 14, 2005

LittleNipper said:
Life does not survive extreem massive pressure, an explosion and super heat.

Guess that rules out CPT, recent major meteor impacts, and a vapor canopy.

Life is not a "natural" occurrence in the universe (if anything really is). Life is SUPERNATURAL.

What natural laws does life violate?

If life was not supernatural, we would be able to see it occur today and/or we would be able to create it.

Actually, you can find a partner and create life. It is called sexual reproduction.

The explanation that nature just happened is not entirely logical. I'm not hiding for anything or anyone...

But you can't get around the argument that nature happens through natural mechanisms.

Loke · Sep 14, 2005

A Jew doesnt know how to speak until he is about 11 or 12, Hebrew being being so complex and all..

Loudmouth · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
Sauropods are one KIND of dinosaur. Dogs are one KIND of carnivoure. Ankylosaurs are one kind of dinosaur. Etc.

Chimps and humans are both primates, a KIND of mammal. Therefore, humans and chimps are in the same KIND.

Ilovecartoons · Sep 14, 2005

Loke said:
A Jew doesnt know how to speak until he is about 11 or 12, Hebrew being being so complex and all..

They're used to speaking in such complicated language. I wouldn't be surprised if a Jew could learn English in only a couple months.

LittleNipper · Sep 14, 2005

TheBigAl said:
No my friend. What you are describing is not understanding where none existed to any real degree, what you are describing is your ego, and your unwillingness to understand ideas which contradict yours. Also, what you are saying can be considered blasphemy, because you are describing your self as having a superior understanding that nobody else has, which suggest that you are measuring your self to God. And if I remember correctly, Lucifer tried to do that, and we all remember what happened to him.

You must be describing yourself my friend, because I see an unwilllingness to accept GOD at HIS Word and there appears the desire to place man's logic on a plan equal even ABOVE GOD's Word and teach it exclusive of any consideration of a Creator. What I possess ONLY believers are given by GOD (it is not exclusive to me alone but it is exclusive to believers). I am a child of GOD. Not everyone can claim that.

Loke · Sep 14, 2005

I'm kind of leaving

Loke · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
They're used to speaking in such complicated language. I wouldn't be surprised if a Jew could learn English in only a couple months.

I'd say english is just as complex to a chinese or just someone living in the southern France.

Elduran · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
Sauropods are one KIND of dinosaur. Dogs are one KIND of carnivoure. Ankylosaurs are one kind of dinosaur. Etc.

Define "Kind" scientifically in terms that we can all understand.

And if you're asking for evolution to show a cat giving birth to a dog, or similar, then you do not understand the theory of evolution at all. What you are describing is shear idiocy perpetuated by frauds such as kent hovind who really don't understand what they try to disprove but instead rely on the ignorance of their audiences.

Elduran · Sep 14, 2005

Loke said:
I'd say english is just as complex to a chinese or just someone living in the southern France.

Maybe to speak it, but at least French and English use the same alphabet!

TheBigAl · Sep 14, 2005

LittleNipper said:
Life does not survive extreem massive pressure, an explosion and super heat. Life is not a "natural" occurrence in the universe (if anything really is). Life is SUPERNATURAL. If life was not supernatural, we would be able to see it occur today and/or we would be able to create it. The explanation that nature just happened is not entirely logical. I'm not hiding for anything or anyone...

So if the world is supernatural as you describe it, then I can consider that Zeus, Allah, and the flying spaghetti monster are true. Along with sprites, unicorns, kapas, and any other mythological monster and god I can think of. It seems that you prefer to see the world in what ever way fits your believes, which is actually contradictory to reality and the concept of God.

z3ro · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
Sauropods are one KIND of dinosaur. Dogs are one KIND of carnivoure. Ankylosaurs are one kind of dinosaur. Etc.

Maybe I wasn't clear, and for that I apologize, I will try to clarify my question. What makes up the definitions of "kinds". You know, like how species have distintive charecteristics. What charecteristics make up a "kind"

z3ro · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
The more complicated something is, the longer it takes to learn it.

It took my sister four years to learn to play clarinet. It took me six months to learn to play violin. No one will argue that clarinet is more complex than violin.

TheBigAl · Sep 14, 2005

LittleNipper said:
You must be describing yourself my friend, because I see an unwilllingness to accept GOD at HIS Word and there appears the desire to place man's logic on a plan equal even ABOVE GOD's Word and teach it exclusive of any consideration of a Creator. What I possess ONLY believers are given by GOD (it is not exclusive to me alone but it is exclusive to believers). I am a child of GOD. Not everyone can claim that.

Well, you described your self as having a superior understanding, and that actually goes against the teachings of Gods word. You seem to be expressing the opposite of what you are preaching.

Like Gandhi once said: I like your Christ, I just dont like you christians.

LittleNipper · Sep 14, 2005

TheBigAl said:
So if the world is supernatural as you describe it, then I can consider that Zeus, Allah, and the flying spaghetti monster are true. Along with sprites, unicorns, kapas, and any other mythological monster and god I can think of. It seems that you prefer to see the world in what ever way fits your believes, which is actually contradictory to reality and the concept of God.

The Great I AM would say that they are not... Zeus is a man invented god that is simply a "super human" and nothing more. Allah is not LOVE & SACRIFICE. Spaghetti monsters are creatures not the Creator.

TheBigAl · Sep 14, 2005

LittleNipper said:
The Great I AM would say that they are not... Zeus is a man invented god that is simply a "super human" and nothing more. Allah is not LOVE & SACRIFICE. Spaghetti monsters are creatures not the Creator.

But according to your statement they exist because they fall in the realm of the supernatural.

I dont remember reading Zeus being a superhuman, and I recommend you show some respect to other belief systems, as you dont seem to know very much about them.

PS: That great I AM statement makes people believe that you consider yourself to be some sort of super being. Remember what I said about Lucifer thinking he was bigger than God.

TeddyKGB · Sep 14, 2005

Ilovecartoons said:
Sauropods are one KIND of dinosaur. Dogs are one KIND of carnivoure. Ankylosaurs are one kind of dinosaur. Etc.

Now hold on a minute. Sauropods and ankylosaurs are both suborders, with dinosauria as the superorder. A dog, however, is a species of the order carnivora. Your definitions are all over the place.

Try again. This time without the mindset that we are too stupid to read.

nvxplorer · Sep 14, 2005

z3ro said:
How is this an indicator of complexity?

Forget complexity. I want to know how it indicates a young earth.

i want a straight up answer from YEC's

Contributor

Ilovecartoons

Guest

Ilovecartoons

Guest

Contributor

Regular Member

Contributor

Ilovecartoons

Guest

Contributor

Regular Member

Regular Member

Disruptive influence

Disruptive influence

Active Member

Veteran

Veteran

Active Member

Contributor

Active Member

A dude playin' a dude disgused as another dude

Senior Contributor

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency