i want a straight up answer from YEC's

[Misguided]

Will somebody please think of the children.

He's actually posted it in the Morality forum as a new thread.

What exactly is his problem anyway?

Excuse me for a minute. I have to wash out my eyeballs.

 

[Battie]

Just report the post whenever you see that link on the boards.

I've never had to use that button before, but that was just rude. I hope my roommate didn't see me click that.

 

[Maxwell511]

What exactly is his problem anyway?

Idiocy.

 

[Sphere]

I must of missed it. What did he post?

 

[LittleNipper]

given the OVERWHELMING evidence for an old earth and evolution why do you consitently ignore it? why do you get your points refuted over and over and over but never listen? why don't you do some research? why do you belive things that come from a site such as AIG when they reject any science that would destroy their beliefs? why why why? is your faith really that weak? are you afraid of science? as someone's signature on here says, if your faith is affected by science that is weak faith. now why are you guys so closed minded? why? i want answers.

It is not that Christians ignore such seeming evidence, they should have; however, understand that there are explanations that fall outside the realm of social humanistic reasoning and naturalistic scientific study. My faith isn't weak; however, I see a decline in the respect of spiritual persuits among the general population at large. They have been spoon fed explanations that are rooted in human logic and have come to depend on human endeavors rather then focusing on the LORD of ALL CREATION as the answer to everything. Man solves one problem by creating twenty. If the Universe reflects ETERNITY, I see no reason why that seeming eternity could not have been CREATED yesterday, EXCEPT for the fact GOD provided HIS story in a manuel for us to read and digest, or ignore and make light of. What we decide to do will affect our present and our eternity. Evolution does NOTHING for anyone's belief because it does NOTHING with regard to a relationship with GOD through Jesus Christ. In fact it insists that there is no need of GOD. History tells me otherwise. Whenever we have tried to replace GOD with something else, everything else seems to fall apart. All anyone needs to view is history and the handwriting is on the wall, over & over again & again.......

 

[Dracil]

I dont know if you have heard of Kent Hovind before (you probably have and already have preconcieved notions about him) but give him a chance listen to what he has to say about the Young Earth theory.

I'll do you one better. I've met him in person. He's a comedian.

 

[Deamiter]

I've done a little research into history in my time, and I seem to recall that there's plenty of things that have replaced our assumed role for God in our world.

Digestion, gravity, lightning, floods, epilepsy and pathogens (germs) come immediately to mind.

I can't remember ever reading about how replacing God with our stomach (or germs or epilepsy etc...) made something else fall apart.

Now atheism, which denies God entirely, is a bit of a different story as one could conceivably make the case that the rise of atheism has caused this or that problem. However, replacing what we've assumed to be God's miracles with natural phenomena has never destroyed anything -- certainly not Christianity (even among the many theistic evolutionists who DON'T fear that evolution spells doom for Christianity).

 

[TheBigAl]

It is not that Christians ignore such seeming evidence, they should have; however, understand that there are explanations that fall outside the realm of social humanistic reasoning and naturalistic scientific study. My faith isn't weak; however, I see a decline in the respect of spiritual persuits among the general population at large. They have been spoon fed explanations that are rooted in human logic and have come to depend on human endeavors rather then focusing on the LORD of ALL CREATION as the answer to everything. Man solves one problem by creating twenty. If the Universe reflects ETERNITY, I see no reason why that seeming eternity could not have been CREATED yesterday, EXCEPT for the fact GOD provided HIS story in a manuel for us to read and digest, or ignore and make light of. What we decide to do will affect our present and our eternity. Evolution does NOTHING for anyone's belief because it does NOTHING with regard to a relationship with GOD through Jesus Christ. In fact it insists that there is no need of GOD. History tells me otherwise. Whenever we have tried to replace GOD with something else, everything else seems to fall apart. All anyone needs to view is history and the handwriting is on the wall, over & over again & again.......

So, if an explanation for a natural occurrence is to difficult to understand, you ignore it and hide behind the idea of “Goddidit”?

 

[YellowStar]

So, if an explanation for a natural occurrence is to difficult to understand, you ignore it and hide behind the idea of “Goddidit”?

So, if an explanation for a natural occurrence is to difficult to understand, you ignore it and hide behind the idea of “It just happened” even though there is no evidence for it happening naturally?

 

[TheBigAl]

So, if an explanation for a natural occurrence is to difficult to understand, you ignore it and hide behind the idea of “It just happened” even though there is no evidence for it happening naturally?

Where have I said such a thing?

Also you word it wrong:

How can there be a hard to understand explanation of a natural occurrence, if according to your ending statement there is no evidence for it?

Can you say: contradiction?

 

[Maxwell511]

"The bible teaches how to get to heaven not how the heavens work". Galileo Galilei.

 

[YellowStar]

Where have I said such a thing?

Also you word it wrong:

How can there be a hard to understand explanation of a natural occurrence, if according to your ending statement there is no evidence for it?

Can you say: contradiction?

It's perceived as a natural occurrence, if I called it a supernatural occurrence then I would have been saying something without evidence just like you did when you called it a natural occurrence. So it was just an occurrence.

 

[TheBigAl]

It's perceived as a natural occurrence, if I called it a supernatural occurrence then I would have been saying something without evidence just like you did when you called it a natural occurrence. So it was just an occurrence.

Okay. I think you are confused, or I don’t understand what you are saying. (see Little Nipper, I ruled out the possibility of being wrong)
Let me try to explain my self.

In my first post, I said that if a natural occurrence happened (example: thunder) an unlearned person would consider it an act of a deity and nothing more. When someone explains how thunder works and why it happens, it contradicts the first notion of the unlearned person making him/her feel threaten and defensive against this new way of reasoning, which doesn’t include the intervention of a deity. Thus the phrase “Goddidit” (God did it.)

PS: Incase you are wondering, I’m not atheist. I’m Catholic/Christian.

 

[TrueCreation]

sadly, even many scientists allow belief to effect their work indefinitely. Scientists will always make value judgements, but value judgements are value judgements.

-Chris Grose

 

[nvxplorer]

It is not that Christians ignore such seeming evidence, they should have; however, understand that there are explanations that fall outside the realm of social humanistic reasoning and naturalistic scientific study.

I won’t ask what “social humanistic” means, but everything is explained using reasoning. Without reason, you cannot even consider a question much less explain it.

They have been spoon fed explanations that are rooted in human logic and have come to depend on human endeavors rather then focusing on the LORD of ALL CREATION as the answer to everything.

Again, the human mind processes information logically. Is your faith in God the result of flipping a coin? I highly doubt it. You choose to believe in God based on your personal reasoning. Logic. Human logic.

 

[Edx]

What exactly is his problem anyway?

Excuse me for a minute. I have to wash out my eyeballs.

Damn did I miss all the porn?

 

[Loudmouth]

It's perceived as a natural occurrence, if I called it a supernatural occurrence then I would have been saying something without evidence just like you did when you called it a natural occurrence. So it was just an occurrence.

Science is the process of figuring out what causes natural phenomena by discovering natural mechanisms. That is all it is. The reason that science has rose in prominence is because it works.

If we don't know how something works the best answer is "I don't know". The most successful method, historically, of finding the answer is modern science.

 

[TeddyKGB]

"The bible teaches how to get to heaven not how the heavens work". Galileo Galilei.

I have seen it as, "The Bible teaches how to go to Heaven, not how the Heavens go." It is more prosaically consistent that way.

 

[LogicChristian]

It is not that Christians ignore such seeming evidence, they should have; however, understand that there are explanations that fall outside the realm of social humanistic reasoning and naturalistic scientific study. My faith isn't weak; however, I see a decline in the respect of spiritual persuits among the general population at large. They have been spoon fed explanations that are rooted in human logic and have come to depend on human endeavors rather then focusing on the LORD of ALL CREATION as the answer to everything. Man solves one problem by creating twenty. If the Universe reflects ETERNITY, I see no reason why that seeming eternity could not have been CREATED yesterday, EXCEPT for the fact GOD provided HIS story in a manuel for us to read and digest, or ignore and make light of. What we decide to do will affect our present and our eternity. Evolution does NOTHING for anyone's belief because it does NOTHING with regard to a relationship with GOD through Jesus Christ. In fact it insists that there is no need of GOD. History tells me otherwise. Whenever we have tried to replace GOD with something else, everything else seems to fall apart. All anyone needs to view is history and the handwriting is on the wall, over & over again & again.......

In other words, if you can't comprehend what is going on, God must have done it.

 

[platzapS]

what the heck is the EAC?

It is a mafia in the worldwide.