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And I'm trying to become brainwashed.
And I'm trying to become brainwashed.
Romans 12:2, Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is, it's good, pleasing and perfect will.
Ephesians 4:22-24, You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
You can't win, Coyote.
You might as well face it; You're brainwashed, you don't know it, you can't admit it, and only these complete strangers (who have never met you) from CF can see your brainwashing.
Of course, it's possible that they are really the ones that are brainwashed, since they don't consider themselves brainwashed either and that's how we would expect a brainwashed person to respond, I suppose.
Or perhaps, just maybe, the best idea is to stop casting aspersions on people altogether...
) which means you, me, Tamara, JFO, Axe, Coyote, etc. etc. ad infinitum.... STOP casting aspersions on one another.
But have others? It makes little difference that you have never.
LOL thats what we do at Passover...when we eat the bitter herbs we savor the bitterness so that we can appreciate more what GOD has done for us.
Was that English?
You can't win, Coyote.
You might as well face it; You're brainwashed, you don't know it, you can't admit it, and only these complete strangers (who have never met you) from CF can see your brainwashing.
Of course, it's possible that they are really the ones that are brainwashed, since they don't consider themselves brainwashed either and that's how we would expect a brainwashed person to respond, I suppose.
Or perhaps, just maybe, the best idea is to stop casting aspersions on people altogether...
I haven't quit debating, but I've eased up. A lot. It's a bit like pounding your head against a wall. Eventually you wise up and stop.
CF debating usually consists of both sides intentionally misrepresenting the other and then acting innocent about it. No real debate can happen like that, and I am sorry to say that for years, I was a part of that problem here.
There is a contingent of "debaters" here who seem to not be satisfied unless everyone agrees with them. But it's like you said gennaoanothen, I am secure in what I believe. I don't need other people to agree with me. They are free to believe whatever they want, about me and about my beliefs.
Personally, I think it's sad. When we all respect one another and treat each other like we're all a part of the same body with the same Father, we are able to learn from the diversity of beliefs and backgrounds. But when we see no place for those who don't believe just like we think they ought to and our mission is to prove how wrong they are, no one learns anything and it only fosters division and strife.
That is a picture perfect illustration of why we can not have good, honest debate and learn from one another.
No matter what you think, I am not your "indoctrinated opponent". I am your brother in Christ.
The truth line is, I have come to my set of beliefs through much personal thought, study, prayer and experience. But to stack the deck against me and completely discredit anything I might have to say, you just brush me off as an "indoctrinated opponent", right from the get go.
Have some of the things I believe been influenced by Rhema and Hagin? No doubt, but then, some of the things I believe have been influenced by you and other people on this forum and in my life also.
I just wish that we could all stop this nonsense and have respectable debate about our differences, like we were all part of the same family, like we were all on the same side, like we weren't each other's "opponents".
I haven't quit debating, but I've eased up. A lot. It's a bit like pounding your head against a wall. Eventually you wise up and stop.
CF debating usually consists of both sides intentionally misrepresenting the other and then acting innocent about it. No real debate can happen like that, and I am sorry to say that for years, I was a part of that problem here.
There is a contingent of "debaters" here who seem to not be satisfied unless everyone agrees with them. But it's like you said gennaoanothen, I am secure in what I believe. I don't need other people to agree with me. They are free to believe whatever they want, about me and about my beliefs.
Personally, I think it's sad. When we all respect one another and treat each other like we're all a part of the same body with the same Father, we are able to learn from the diversity of beliefs and backgrounds. But when we see no place for those who don't believe just like we think they ought to and our mission is to prove how wrong they are, no one learns anything and it only fosters division and strife.
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