salida said in post 32:
(water baptism)
1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Acts 2;38,Receive the holy spirit. He will give you the power to live a christian life. Human effort alone can't do this. Pray and you will get it. This will give you the inner strength to live the christian life.
Amen.
In order to be saved ultimately, believers must get water-immersion (burial) baptized into Jesus' death for our sins (Mk. 16:16, 1 Pet. 3:21, Rom. 6:3-11, Col. 2:12, Gal. 3:27, Acts 2:38, 22:16). If people believe with all their heart Jesus Christ is the human/divine Son of God (Acts 8:37), they can get baptized anywhere there's water (Acts 8:36) into which they can be fully-immersed (buried) (Rom. 6:3-11, Col. 2:12). They need to make sure to be baptized in the name of God the Father; & of the Son, Jesus Christ; & of the Holy Spirit (Mt. 28:19, Acts 2:38). Believers can get water-immersion baptized at, e.g., a Baptist church. Besides getting water baptized, believers can also get Holy Spirit baptized (Acts 11:15-16, 10:44-46). They usually have to ask to receive the Holy Spirit (Lk. 11:13b) baptism, for it isn't usually automatically given to them the moment they become believers; that's why Paul asked some believers: "Have ye received the Holy Spirit since ye believed?" (Acts 19:2).
Believers usually receive Holy Spirit baptism through prayer accompanied by the laying on of hands, subsequent to water baptism (Acts 8:15-17, 19:5-6). Holy Spirit baptism won't result in speaking in tongues for everyone (1 Cor. 12:30), but for almost everyone, as tongues are one of the Spirit's lesser gifts (1 Cor. 12:8-11,28, 14:5). Many believers haven't yet experienced Holy Spirit baptism simply because they haven't yet asked for it, under the principle of "ye have not, because ye ask not" (Jas. 4:2b). Many believers haven't yet asked for it because they've come under the influence of mistaken teachings which say it's no longer in effect. Believers can get hands laid on them to receive Holy Spirit baptism at, e.g., a Pentecostal-type or charismatic-type congregation.
The Holy Spirit's gifts (1 Cor. 12:8-10), which operate in believers who have received Holy Spirit baptism (Acts 19:6, 11:15-16, 10:44-46), won't cease operating until Jesus' 2nd coming. For 1 Cor. 13:8-12 means that just as only when children become adults do they put away childish things, so only when believers will become perfect when they see Jesus face to face at his 2nd coming (1 Jn. 3:2) will they no longer need the Spiritual gifts of prophecy, tongues, and the word of knowledge (1 Cor. 12:8,10). During the future tribulation (which will just precede Jesus' 2nd coming: Mt. 24:29-31), are some in the church going to reject the ministry of the two witnesses simply because it will involve them prophesying and performing miracles (Rev. 11:3,6)?
Because Jesus' 2nd coming (like the preceding tribulation) hasn't happened yet, all the Spirit's gifts are still operating in the church today (within Pentecostal-type and charismatic-type congregations, which can be found in different denominations). God's Word commands believers to operate in the Spiritual gifts when believers come together (1 Cor. 14:26-31). So congregations today must be careful never to quench the Spirit (1 Thes. 5:19), such as by despising prophesyings (1 Thes. 5:20) or forbidding all speaking in tongues (1 Cor. 14:39). Tongues are one of the Spiritual gifts (1 Cor. 12:8-10) through which believers can be regularly edified (1 Cor. 14:4-5,12,26).
Different believers receive different kinds of tongues (1 Cor. 12:10). Some tongues are languages which people can understand (Acts 2:4,8) while other tongues are languages which people can't understand (1 Cor. 14:2), not even the speakers (1 Cor. 14:14). Unintelligible tongues could include ancient human languages which are unknown to history, ancient human languages which are known to history but aren't understood, and angelic languages (1 Cor. 13:1). Unintelligible tongues aren't useless, however, for when they're prayed or sung privately to God without interpretation (1 Cor. 14:2,28) they edify the spirits of those who speak or sing them (1 Cor. 14:4,14-15, Jude 1:20), to bless God and thank God (1 Cor. 14:16). And when unintelligible tongues are prayed or sung out loud in a congregation, and then Spiritually interpreted (1 Cor. 12:10b-11), their interpretation edifies the whole congregation (1 Cor. 14:5b,12-13,26). When Christians sing in tongues to God they're singing the "spiritual songs" which Paul distinguishes from psalms and hymns (Eph. 5:19, Col. 3:16).