I love P.E.T.A and what they do.

[Spiritlight]

I think that we have lost our compassion...
We suffer at the hands of ourselves, our actions cause hurt, our coldness inside numbs the fact that what we do is not as it should be or as our father in heaven taught us. If you truly beleive in the christ then we should remember that it was him who loved those that others refused to, he broke bread with lepers when others shunned them... he preached that it is love in which god made us and which he taught us is the second greatest commandment... I understand that the Scripture tells us that man has "dominion" over all that swim the seas, walk the ground and soar in the skies.. dominon does not mean to kill and consume.. it means to be the care takers of.
God made us to love us, he made us to love one another and all living things.
Let us not forget that although we can quickly kill and end life we cannot simply make life as our father in heaven can with just a thought.

PETA's message is good...the delivery eh' not so much at times.

Just remember this, chose to love over causing hurt..there is enough hurt to go around already.

amen, amen. Thank you and bless you for your kindness.

 

[PACKY]

spiritlight... i tried the same post December 24th 2004 I think... I came to CF looking to debate amount animal rights and the lack thereof in American Christian values.

I still remember to this day that I spoke my peace on animal rights, and less then five replies later someone told me they were hungry for steak......


I learned then that you just cant win when some people just wanna remain stuck on stupid.

 

[Spiritlight]

Chicken is horrible. That's why I said red meat. But I will check it out! See if I can use it in stir fry or something.

its better than tofu in stir fry.

 

[Girder of Loins]

I agree that we should be good stewards of what we have, I guess that you and I have different delivery systems. Is pest control wrong? It saves human lives! In fact, if we all went vegetarian, what would become of the herds of cattle? Not to mention that it would be nigh impossible to aid foreign countries, as they need protein(something found in abundance in meat). Of course we could send them nuts, but it takes a lot of nuts to get the same effect. Honestly, widespread vegetarianism is inefficient and as wistful as Utopian Socialism. It will never work. Is it a great goal and idea? Of course! We need smarter ways for population controls that may go outside of hunting seasons, and I think animal activists have that ability. I am not trying to condemn any of you, as that would be hypocritical, but I am saying that we are not sinning by eating meat. I feel that a lot of Christian animal rights activists think eating meat is a sin, when even Paul ate meat and encouraged it!

This is all said in Love and the hope that we can continue living in Peace with one another on this great earth given to us!

 

[Spiritlight]

Paul encouraged drinking wine too as we'll as meat..

1 Timothy ch 5. It's all relevant. I don't think meat or wine is sinning in consumption. It's all about the intent in its use.

Meat can be used for gluttony and wine for drunkeness, they are equally as bad if abused as both are equal sins. Only in meat production can we also bring cruelty into the equation via our neglect and greed for cheap meat to waste.

 

[sculleywr]

PETA is not something I like. Out of thousands of animals that enter their shelters, only dozens are adopted. Unfortunately, they are not a zero kill. Around 95-97% of their animals are put down. I would rather donate to a no kill group.

 

[eckhart]

Its sad that they kill about 90% of their animals as most people have said, apart from that - I support the other work they do, and encourage people to wake up to the horror of speciesism. nonhuman animals should be treated as the sentient beings that they are, not as means to our ends.
PETA are taking care of my friends on this earth, God bless them for the work that they do.

 

[Spiritlight]

Its sad that they kill about 90% of their animals as most people have said, apart from that - I support the other work they do, and encourage people to wake up to the horror of speciesism. nonhuman animals should be treated as the sentient beings that they are, not as means to our ends.
PETA are taking care of my friends on this earth, God bless them for the work that they do.

I signed up for a KFC protest today. I am more than happy to try to intervene in the holocaust of the animals. Someone's gotta stop the cruelty and I'm going to do it. I know chickens are dumb but what they do to them is so unethical.

 

[eckhart]

I signed up for a KFC protest today. I am more than happy to try to intervene in the holocaust of the animals. Someone's gotta stop the cruelty and I'm going to do it. I know chickens are dumb but what they do to them is so unethical.

It is so un ethical, and I feel people should be educated (not that they aren't educated) in a way that they know that they don't have to eat meat or wear leather to get by or be warm or get by with their food.

 

[Mommyhasfaith]

I was a vegetarian for a few years on and off. I dont always agree with what peta does but I think they're heart is in the right place. They paid my puppys vet bill when I had to put him down. :-/

 

[Matariki]

I'm a vegetarian, but I don't support PETA, they're extremists and I believe that they've done more harm than good. I'm far more interested in supporting my local ASPCA.

 

[Spiritlight]

Maybe in a way like them or hate them their antics make people think about and discuss something that largely goes unnoticed which is animal suffering.

If organizations like these remind us of something that slips our mind in our busy lives then it might be a good thing. Ultimately it's up to us all to be the carers and people who intercede on behalf of things that need help.

 

[If Not For Grace]

I am a Farmer's wife, while I do not believe in cruelty to domestic animals, I have no problem with the food chain. We raise livestock, I wear fur in the winter and we eat what we kill. Plants are living creatures as well as animals, they may be on a lower plain, but if you do not think a plant lives to give birth to its young and does it's best to protect them and responds to touch and sound you have not been much of a gardener. Even some of the animals PETA seeks to protect are predators as well (Wolves, Coyotes, Rattlesnakes).

While I respect your right to be vegan or whatever suits you-I'm tired of the attitude we get for raising chickens, fish and other animals for food. We are clearly allowed to eat meat from a biblical view and Jesus himself fed people fish and ate Lamb. So get off your self righteous high horse with your views toward those of us who differ with you.

 

[Spiritlight]

We are all interconnected and none of us can live without the other things we share the world with. Us christians with a bible in our hands are not exempt from reprocussion for mismanaging what the lord gave us to look after. We have a greater responsibility to manage it all properly not a right to exploit for gluttony.

 

[If Not For Grace]

Consuming meat is not equal to gluttony

 

[Spiritlight]

Consuming meat is not equal to gluttony

110% correct you are! It only is if you eat too much.

I was never picking at people who eat meat. Its more the disregard for life as a thing of worth.


If you raise and eat your own stuff you more than have my respect and i agree.

I have my own chickens too I treat as pets so they give us eggs. They get a good life and heaps of open space and good food. I get fresh eggs. I dont eat the chickens though.

What I meant before is there has become a disassociation between life and product in the minds of consumers. For that reason its easy to waste the lives of things as if it is an inanimate object with no value except a sale price. It is also possible to use the same mentality towards its existence, but dont think we should do that.

I think you get what I mean by now, just trying to be as thoughtful to the things we are entrusted with as we can.

 

[If Not For Grace]

Americans waste in general. There is waste everywhere. We should all take a mission trip to a country like India, Hati or Pakistan and live for 3 months and we Might get a feel for how lucky we are. I work with several Easterners who came here to study and work as physicians-you should hear them describe our everyday lifes. Talking about paper plates, cups, plastic forks and how our children are lazy and disrespectful. They talk about how the children are picked up by bus and transported to school fed breakfast and lunch and can't not make it through a year w/o being tardy. I hear you-and agree

 

[If Not For Grace]

I can agree with their mission, but they can get pretty radical about how they carry it out.

I just wish there were people who are this passionate about ending things like child abuse and world hunger.

Amen-The Trouble with PETA is just like what is wrong with the church today-they do more harm to their own cause than anybody else-it's their methods-Extreme, fanatical...They are the hellfire and brimstone and while in someways they shed a light--they are like the people who burn or bomb abortion clinics-guilty of the sins they seek to committ. They brow beat humans in the name of animals. They have tunnel vision. Would they could channel their passions in a more humanly compassionate light-more like Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do..rather than scream bloody murder and throw fake blood and act like militiants.

 

[Spiritlight]

Amen-The Trouble with PETA is just like what is wrong with the church today-they do more harm to their own cause than anybody else-it's their methods-Extreme, fanatical...They are the hellfire and brimstone and while in someways they shed a light--they are like the people who burn or bomb abortion clinics-guilty of the sins they seek to committ. They brow beat humans in the name of animals. They have tunnel vision. Would they could channel their passions in a more humanly compassionate light-more like Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do..rather than scream bloody murder and throw fake blood and act like militiants.

I don't know if you noticed but nobody cares.

95% of people are aware of the plight of animals in farms. Many are aware our seas are choking in plastic so they fill up shopping trolleys with it so they can unload the trolley to the car.

People throw cigarette butts in waterways and drains knowing it kills marine life.

Nobody cares so why should cause activists hold back? It takes something extra these days to bring attention these days.

 

[JCFantasy23]

I am a Farmer's wife, while I do not believe in cruelty to domestic animals, I have no problem with the food chain. We raise livestock, I wear fur in the winter and we eat what we kill. Plants are living creatures as well as animals, they may be on a lower plain, but if you do not think a plant lives to give birth to its young and does it's best to protect them and responds to touch and sound you have not been much of a gardener. Even some of the animals PETA seeks to protect are predators as well (Wolves, Coyotes, Rattlesnakes).

While I respect your right to be vegan or whatever suits you-I'm tired of the attitude we get for raising chickens, fish and other animals for food. We are clearly allowed to eat meat from a biblical view and Jesus himself fed people fish and ate Lamb. So get off your self righteous high horse with your views toward those of us who differ with you.

This has nothing to do with animal rights activists group. The OP wasn't speaking against people who eat meat. There are plenty of people who are animal activists who eat meat.

I completely support the care of animals and think a lot of people act with little honor toward them, seeing themselves as so superior they disregard those under them that they were governed to care for. Still I'm not a PETA fan, I think a lot of what they do is iffy and far-fetched.