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I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

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Yes, it takes a lot of willpower and self-control. I understand.

What are you getting from this? You're not here to even make an attempt to talk about the thread or the OP.

And it is incredibly easy for my to say that Gottservant's posts are nonsense.
 
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What are you getting from this? You're not here to even make an attempt to talk about the thread or the OP.
And it is incredibly easy for my to say that Gottservant's posts are nonsense.

And what I'm suggesting is very hard work. I get it.

And the OP is about self-development, by the way.
So I am on the topic.
 
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And what I'm suggesting is very hard work. I get it.

And the OP is about self-development, by the way.
So I am on the topic.

Yes, it would be hard to say yes with what Gottservant said, because it is factually insipid and scientifically impossible.

The OP topic is talking about a scientific impossibility. He isn't talking about self-development, he is talking about somehow not biologically evolving and to stay in the current state of evolution he is in or even going backwards. He is talking about a biological and scientific impossibility.
 
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Evolution is not actually the problem. It the way people present evolution as an unguided process that infuriates Creationists. When Evolution is shown as a change that God had planned from the beginning of time it becomes even more understandable from a Christian perspective. Even more understandable than EVO's are blindly taught it.
 
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But his own journey. Not one he even is suggesting others follow. And he's right. Life is scientifically impossible. It's so complex that humans will never be able to reproduce it. Anything that can't be duplicated, is impossible. Or at least outside of science.

I often make the statement, of all the "Laws" we have for science, there isn't even one for LIFE. We have not even one rule of law that says life should occur. We have laws and rules and theories for everything else, but none have shown up for why anything would become living.
 
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But his own journey. Not one he even is suggesting others follow.

But it is impossible to go backwards in evolution, that is what he's talking about. It's even in his first line of the OP that he doesn't want to evolve:
So I don't know whether to make this long or short, I just want to say that whatever Evolution is, I am not going to chase it. I just don't want to. I would rather be backwards and have faith; than go forwards and "evolve".
Do you understand this?
 
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But it is impossible to go backwards in evolution, that is what he's talking about. It's even in his first line of the OP that he doesn't want to evolve: Do you understand this?
He makes no mention of evolution going backward. So you are beating on water with a rock.
This explains your frustration.
 
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He makes no mention of evolution going backward. So you are beating on water with a rock.
This explains your frustration.

Except that he does say it in the second paragraph of the OP:
I can cope with it because my Evolution is better than anything you could force on me, it is a failed Evolution, one that will never be forwards
 
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Nonsense. Humans reproduce life all the time. Knowledge of the process required is rather limited even for those who are sucessful. (By board rules, I am prohibited from discussing the details due to their "vulgarity".)
 
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Except that he does say it in the second paragraph of the OP:
There is no mention of evolution going backward. Even the idea is not there.
So you seem to be beating your head with a brick, rather than your preferred method of teaching, beating his.


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I can cope with it because my Evolution is better than anything you could force on me, it is a failed Evolution, one that will never be forwards
 
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There is no mention of evolution going backward. Even the idea is not there.
So you seem to be beating your head with a brick.

And you just seem to have plopped into this thread with no real idea what Gottservant's position is nor understanding what anyone else has said, but are hellbent on defending him for some reason.

To be honest, at this point, I couldn't care less what you have to say. Gottservant's posts are filled with inane nonsense and that's not going to really change.
 
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Yes, and how does that answer the OP topic again?

The topic is personal growth and the adoption of ideas.
 
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