I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

Gottservant · Oct 24, 2020

I think what it is, is that my Evolution, is lagging.

I'm not saying that's Evolution's fault; I'm not saying I blame my Evolution.

I'm just saying "I am having trouble keeping up, I need help, I need a Saviour".

No offence, if you would rather feel that I was a betrayer of what you had come to know was "the truth" - I just can't pretend I can do it on my own, any more.

Speedwell · Oct 24, 2020

Gottservant said:
I think what it is, is that my Evolution, is lagging.

You have no evolution. None of us does. Evolution is the difference between you and your offspring, not changes which happen to you during your lifetime.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Oct 24, 2020

Gottservant said:
You are saying '"Evolution" happens, after everything is added' - that just does not make sense?

That's not what I said.

For the umpteeth time: Evolution happens, over a number of generations, to populations where some offspring have variant traits that give them an 'advantage'.

An 'advantage' is whatever results in their genes contributing more to subsequent generations than the genes of others; e.g. producing more viable offspring.

AV1611VET · Oct 24, 2020

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
For the umpteeth time: Evolution happens, over a number of generations, to populations where some offspring have variant traits that give them an 'advantage'.

What if "the population" doesn't want to co-operate?

Yttrium · Oct 24, 2020

AV1611VET said:
What if "the population" doesn't want to co-operate?

Then the population will have to apply very advanced genetic engineering.

Ophiolite · Oct 24, 2020

Gottservant said:
Look at the progression from fish to ape to man, at what point are they evolved?

It's a basic question.

I'm not playing games, I'm just encouraging you to be constructive??

Practically every other member, in this and in a hundred other threads of yours, has been nothing but constructive.

Unfortunately you refuse completely to pay the slightest attention to anything you have explained to you. This refusal is insolent, self-centred, arrogant stupidity. It is not amusing. It is not intelligent. It is not sociable. It is rude, provocative and inexcusable.

The only thing that matches it for inexcusability is the failure of the forum staff to shut you down for your own good. They have a duty of care that they are flagrantly ignoring, presumably because they want to keep the post count up.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Oct 24, 2020

AV1611VET said:
What if "the population" doesn't want to co-operate?

As 'non-cooperation' would involve not reproducing, they'd soon go extinct.

You might as well ask what happens if you don't co-operate in getting older...

Gottservant · Oct 31, 2020

If Jesus can't do it, I'm not interested.

That's my final offer.

I can leverage, far more from design, than spurious predation in the name of Evolution.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 31, 2020

Gottservant said:
If Jesus can't do it, I'm not interested.

That's my final offer.

I can leverage, far more from design, than spurious predation in the name of Evolution.

You cannot offer anything because evolution is not something that can be bargained with. It is not an entity with thoughts and logic, it is simply a biological process.

AV1611VET · Oct 31, 2020

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
You cannot offer anything because evolution is not something that can be bargained with. It is not an entity with thoughts and logic, it is simply a biological process.

Mindless, isn't it?

Bungle_Bear · Oct 31, 2020

AV1611VET said:
Mindless, isn't it?

Yes.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 31, 2020

AV1611VET said:
Mindless, isn't it?

Indeed. Evolution is really just a reaction to environmental pressures.

Gottservant · Nov 28, 2020

What if I die, and I don't know what my Evolution is "supposed" to be?

Will I have to wait (for my resurrection) behind those who already know, they are going to be human?

Isn't claiming you are from a monkey, like giving in to the popular interpretation that the resurrection is a joke? Without knowing why?

Bungle_Bear · Nov 28, 2020

Gottservant said:
Isn't claiming you are from a monkey, like giving in to the popular interpretation that the resurrection is a joke? Without knowing why?

No. It's a demonstration of ignorance.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Nov 28, 2020

Gottservant said:
What if I die, and I don't know what my Evolution is "supposed" to be?

You've still made no attempt to learn about basic biology, have you?

Gottservant · Nov 28, 2020

Gottservant said:
If Jesus can't do it, I'm not interested.

That's my final offer.

I can leverage, far more from design, than spurious predation in the name of Evolution.

If I asked Jesus, to "evolve" something: I would be presuming insufficient, something for which all sufficiency has already been achieved.

I think that's the problem, you are headed down the broad road to destruction: and your invitation to me, is to give up the narrow path, for something neither path can justify (perpetual progress).

I can evolve more, sticking to my current kind, than you can fluke fleetingly insisting on the kind you imagined at first might be 'relevant' (one day you will say you want to copy me, but I will tell you "depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you, where you were from" (just like Jesus)).

Warden_of_the_Storm · Nov 28, 2020

Do you enjoy not making sense?

Gottservant · Nov 28, 2020

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Do you enjoy not making sense?

I enjoy it, a little (sadly - can't help it).

Just being honest: if Evolution is supposed to make more sense, because it "has" to,, I don't think you are ever going to sound like someone, who knew what sanity was.

I'm sorry, if that means I enjoy the wrong thing, but in the Evolutionary context, I sincerely don't understand where within me the consistency (that would make Evolution constructive) is supposed to come from.

So yes, before God and before you, I publicly confess I put the hope of being "sane" with Jesus, before being less reasonable with "Evolution".

I guess that is where we differ? That Evolution lacks "the reasonable", to me? (I don't understand what making a reasonable attempt at being the child of a monkey, is).

Speedwell · Nov 28, 2020

Gottservant said:
I enjoy it, a little (sadly - can't help it).

Just being honest: if Evolution is supposed to make more sense, because it "has" to,

Evolution will never make sense to you because you don't know what it is and apparently don't want to find out.

Hans Blaster · Nov 28, 2020

Gottservant said:
I can evolve

No you can't. Not in the biological sense, and it would seem not in the intellectual sense either. Sad.

I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

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