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Interesting indeed. Why do you think doctors are poison? Why did Jesus accept Luke, the doctor (aka poison according to you), as his disciple? If being a doctor is poison why did not Jesus talk Luke out of it?I don't think that being a Christian shields anyone from physical harm or sickness. I stay away from doctors and medicine because both are poison and not because I think that being a Christian makes me invincible from physical death. This is an interesting thread!
For clarification: my views re: doctors and medicine reflect my views in our times only.Interesting indeed. Why do you think doctors are poison? Why did Jesus accept Luke, the doctor (aka poison according to you), as his disciple? If being a doctor is poison why did not Jesus talk Luke out of it?
Sorry but no you wouldn't. You can have a promise of God but if you don't believe you receive it when you pray as far as God is concerned it belongs to you but you haven't appropriated it. So what's the sign that one truly believes they receive when they pray. They will talk like they've got it and act like they've got it.I believe that the promises of the Bible are true, too.
But if God HAD promised physical healing, every time, we would receive it;
With all due respect I'd say you're making the mistake of many. You're making other's experience god to you. What I mean is whatever a human experiences you're creating your doctrine to accommodate what you see with the physical eye. It's like Peter walking on the water but taking his eyes off of Jesus or the word and looking at natural realm things.Yet, David Watson died from cancer and Joni Eareckson-Tada remains in a wheelchair - to name but two. Jennifer Rees-Larcombe WAS healed, miraculously, but not when she, her husband and all their friends were praying for it.
Of course not. Because some people yes many people have decided they're going to be hardhearted and resist what they really should be accepting. That however will make their judgment more intense for God has demonstrated things to them whereby he'll tell them they are without excuse. See Matt 11:21If you look at the Bible, miracles do not always produce, or lead to, faith in God.
Sure. It's really Eph 6:1-3Thanks, can you repost the verse? When I click it, it shows Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
The Father Chose Luke, and Jesus Trained Luke.Why did Jesus accept Luke
I'd say this should be considered evidence.Evidence?
How many Pharisees believed after they saw Lazarus walking out of the tomb?
What about Pharaoh, after the first plague in Egypt?
It's a bit misleading, because of how health and such was thought of then is completely different from today. Pharmakeia would be more like witch doctors than a modern doctor, the use of balms and physical remedies was perfectly acceptable. Even Paul recommended the medicinal use of wine for Timothy's ailment.The Bible, don'y you know ?
Look up pharmakeia.
Good grief you might want to dial that way back and reconsider your position. Paul the Apostle even taught there are reasons WHY a person might be weak and sickly and yes even to have died.What is nasty, is people being led to believe that there is something wrong with them if they get sick and are not healed. This erroneous teaching has caused more harm, depression, and hardship than any other false teaching. It is totally unkind and the height of nastiness to pray for a sick person and nothing happens, to blame the sick person of having sin in their life, or not having enough faith to be healed. In my opinion, people who teach that stuff are not saved and are on the read to hell.
You're suggesting just to unconverted persons. You don't find that in the book of Acts.The real healing happens to an unconverted person, and as a result, his family, friends, and many in his community turn to Christ. That is the real purpose of the healing sign.
Misleading is all the vast power and money and educational system controlled today by bigfarma....It's a bit misleading, because of how health and such was thought of then is completely different from today. Pharmakeia would be more like witch doctors than a modern doctor, the use of balms and physical remedies was perfectly acceptable. Even Paul recommended the medicinal use of wine for Timothy's ailment.
And if they do , and what is revealed to them is directly and completely different than society and doctors and churches say ? (as happens to be the case most often) And then , God Willing, they are healed ..... as God heals both the righteous and the unrighteous, as He Pleases.It's up to them to seek God and his wisdom as to why healing didn't manifest the them personally.
How many religious leaders and doctors and so on today believe when they see someone raised from the dead and/ or many healed ?Evidence?
How many Pharisees believed after they saw Lazarus walking out of the tomb?
I wasn't asking for evidence of healing, but for evidence for the comment that "miracles produce more faith than if they didn't happen."I'd say this should be considered evidence.
And it happened that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and dysentery. Paul went in to him and prayed, and he laid his hands on him and healed him. 9So when this was done, the rest of those on the island who had diseases also came and were healed. 10They also honored us in many ways; and when we departed, they provided such things as were necessary. Acts 28: 8
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