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Pink seems fine to me unless a person has a problem with flesh tones. In Russia blue is considered a sign of being gay, I was told once. I used to have some pink. This seems to happen to my white shirts pretty frequently.
 
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. --Deut. 22

Is anyone UNCLEAR about this???
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ShieldOFaith, if you had your way, who would you put to death?
 
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Best way to handle this is to opt out of public schools. Why put up with any of this?
Because it'd probably be worse in a private school? Especially a Christian one. Your only salvation is if they have a uniform policy.
 
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It makes me want to puke!

What a tragedy. Our kids stooping to things like this to try to look like rebels?

I know all you left of center think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but you are wrong.

This just makes our country weak and pathetic. This is just absolutely pathetic. I am glad my uncle Mikey and my dad are not alive to see something like this. My uncle was killing japanese in WWII and my dad was in during Korea. Me and all my bothers served in the U. S. Army and all I can think of is how weak we have become. Absolutely pathetic.

Who goes out and buys pink (knowing that it represents homosexuality) shirts and hands them out? Who is you father? Who raised you? How can a young American male do something like this??? Where is the disconnect?

This story almost just gave me a stroke!!! My wife has just told me to calm down.

I am getting nauseated just thinking about this.

This is still the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

If someone is picking on you, you tell them to knock it off. If they get violent you punch them square in the face! This does two things; one it will probably stop the violence right there; two, it probably stop further violence from the bully. He will know you are not a soft target anymore, and he will leave you alone and find another target!

Buy a pink t-shirt? How absolutely pathetic.
Zero-tolerance policy. One of the many things I think public school systems do wrong, because they encourage bullying with it, knowing if the person does anything, all it takes is one call, especially if the bully's parents are kingpins or queen bees (who deserve to be thrown in prison), and the victim is destroyed.

So short of getting him expelled, what else could he do?
 
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I appluade what they did. Really it was the best thing they could do and really the only workable thing. I was bullied in school not for what I wore but for a medical condition I have. I know first hand often times teachers wonlt or even can;t do much about bullying. Telling a bully to knock it off will likely just end up with them laughing and saying and what? what will you do if I donlt? Punching them will just get you in trouble regardless of whether they punched you first or not.
Also there is no such thing as colors that are only for men or colors that are only for women. Now you will see a lot more pink on women..but I think that is mainly because we have more clothing options to pick from in pink. But what is soo bad about men wearing pink? I thought as adults we would have gotten past the ewww pink is for girls and blue is for boys! menality after we past middleschool.
 
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. --Deut. 22[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Is anyone UNCLEAR about this???[/FONT]


So where in the bible does it say that pink is not a mans color?
 
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I've been unsure for a while now, but finally I'm absolutely certain that you're a Poe. There's no way anyone could post that and actually be serious.
I was sure the first time I saw one of his posts and I've repeatedly said so. I guess with the board loosing so many members people would rather play with the Poe than do nothing at all.
 
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Zero-tolerance policy. One of the many things I think public school systems do wrong, because they encourage bullying with it, knowing if the person does anything, all it takes is one call, especially if the bully's parents are kingpins or queen bees (who deserve to be thrown in prison), and the victim is destroyed.

So short of getting him expelled, what else could he do?
First, don't wear things that associate you with the feminine gender.

Second, it was not him, it was two other boys who came up with this limp-wristed idea of pink t-shirts.

The kid who wore pink in the first place should have just scrapped his little pink shirt, and for the rest of the year wear manly colors.

I guess I am older than most of you here. In my days in school, we just faced the bully, or stayed bullied forever. I never knuckled under to the bullies. I fought back. I was in quiet a few scraps when I was a youngster. One thing that I learned from my father was, if someone is picking on you, you first walk away and try to avoid a fight. Sometimes this works. After that if he keeps it up, (remember this is my dad saying this) "you pick up a stick and wrap it across his face". My dad grew up in the south Bronx in a real rough side of town. He would also talk all the time about picking up an "ash-can" and smack it across the guys head. Which always sounded funny to me and my brothers since we grew up in L.A.. There are no "ash-cans" in L.A.. All you New Yorkers can probably relate to the "ash-can" thing. The real point of the moral is, don't let someone bully you or he will keep doing it.

But flying pink/feminine colors would have never ever happened in my day. It would have only brought ten times more persecution. I also wonder if there hasn't been any back-lash against these pink boys. The story doesn't say anything about that. However, I can guarantee you that these pink boys are the butt of many jokes now on that campus. I played football when I was in high school, and I can tell you from experience that the coaches are probably using these pink boys as an example of --let's just say something less than... Well I think you get the picture.

The very fact that we are discussing this shows you that I am right. This has become a nationally published story. Why? Because it attacks the gender wall. Anything that can try and bring that wall down, is championed by those left of center. And most of you are angry with me because I am one of the only ones left trying to KEEP THAT WALL STANDING.

Boys are boys. Girls are girls. Let's keep it that way.

I have no problem with girls doing girl things. I do have a problem with boys doing girly things like using little pink t-shirts to ward off bullies. That is just so weak and pathetic. If these boys have dads, I feel sorry for them.
 
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The sixth of the ten commandments reads, “Thou shall not kill.”

Yet your uncle was killing the Japanese.

Why do you almost have a stroke when people are wearing pink when you type [FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]

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The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. --Deut. 22"

Why do you illustrate you are the "real man" because you were in the army, along with your other family members and he was killing Japanese etc etc..... how this is such a manly thing to do.. when it goes against Gods word... yet wearing a certain colour is so wrong? But killing in the war make you and your family the "real men"

Can you not see you are wrong?



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"I never knuckled under to the bullies. I fought back. I was in quiet a few scraps when I was a youngster."

Sounds like you may have suffered a brain injury. You keep rambling about violence. Seems that is your answer for everything.

I laugh at your attempt to defend the bullies. . . Your old school mentality is amusing. Poe????
 
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I say we all here on this sub-forum put some pink in our profiles or pics. Let's have some pink-solidarity here!
 
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First, don't wear things that associate you with the feminine gender.

Second, it was not him, it was two other boys who came up with this limp-wristed idea of pink t-shirts.

The kid who wore pink in the first place should have just scrapped his little pink shirt, and for the rest of the year wear manly colors.

I guess I am older than most of you here. In my days in school, we just faced the bully, or stayed bullied forever. I never knuckled under to the bullies. I fought back. I was in quiet a few scraps when I was a youngster. One thing that I learned from my father was, if someone is picking on you, you first walk away and try to avoid a fight. Sometimes this works. After that if he keeps it up, (remember this is my dad saying this) "you pick up a stick and wrap it across his face". My dad grew up in the south Bronx in a real rough side of town. He would also talk all the time about picking up an "ash-can" and smack it across the guys head. Which always sounded funny to me and my brothers since we grew up in L.A.. There are no "ash-cans" in L.A.. All you New Yorkers can probably relate to the "ash-can" thing. The real point of the moral is, don't let someone bully you or he will keep doing it.

But flying pink/feminine colors would have never ever happened in my day. It would have only brought ten times more persecution. I also wonder if there hasn't been any back-lash against these pink boys. The story doesn't say anything about that. However, I can guarantee you that these pink boys are the butt of many jokes now on that campus. I played football when I was in high school, and I can tell you from experience that the coaches are probably using these pink boys as an example of --let's just say something less than... Well I think you get the picture.

The very fact that we are discussing this shows you that I am right. This has become a nationally published story. Why? Because it attacks the gender wall. Anything that can try and bring that wall down, is championed by those left of center. And most of you are angry with me because I am one of the only ones left trying to KEEP THAT WALL STANDING.

Boys are boys. Girls are girls. Let's keep it that way.

I have no problem with girls doing girl things. I do have a problem with boys doing girly things like using little pink t-shirts to ward off bullies. That is just so weak and pathetic. If these boys have dads, I feel sorry for them.
When I was in school, there was a group that ran the roost that came from the "rich side" of the valley (who now are getting theirs because house prices on their side have dropped almost 20%). One of these guys attacked a kid about a foot shorter than him. Another larger guy pushed him aside and confronted the bully. They started fighting. ALL THREE were suspended for a week.

It gets worse. The bully's parents call up the parents of both the victim and the guy who stood up to him and planned to sue them for everything they got. They eventually settled on a couple thousand, but the power was there. There was nothing the other two could do about it.

Since then, people try to ignore them, but on days when that group gets more aggressive, it was hard to. I was a victim of many of their attacks. WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING and they knew it because the zero-tolerance policy would destroy any of our chances of going to a good college, getting a good job, and with their kingpin dads and queen bee moms suing everyone that attacks their innocent little boys, we couldn't do a thing about it.

That victim kid committed suicide in a few months. That bully? Well he went on to become a missionary, since he was a devout Christian at the time, and with all the youth clubs there. HOW WONDERFUL!

Its a nationally published story because it's a very unique way for the kid to fight back against a guy. That was why.
 
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"I never knuckled under to the bullies. I fought back. I was in quiet a few scraps when I was a youngster."

Sounds like you may have suffered a brain injury. You keep rambling about violence. Seems that is your answer for everything.

I laugh at your attempt to defend the bullies. . . Your old school mentality is amusing. Poe????
To his defense, he isn't really "defending" the bullies... but he is leaving the victim in a much worse situation than if they had done this.
 
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SOF is just sad because he is not:

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In the words of my old Sgt. Mgr, "I am a trained killer". If you don't think I'm tough enough to wear pink, that is your purgative. However, I am not a girl, so I'll just let you girls wear it.

Girls look good in Pink. :)
 
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Your immaturity aside, I will continue to debunk the half-truths and misrepresentations you present here as truth.

So the homosexuals don't wear Pink Triangles? There is no such group called the Pink Angels? These are only in peoples minds. Right.

Yes they do. That doesn't mean that a color is "gay"; it simply means that it has been used for homosexual causes before. Shall we ban the use of the color red since it was associated with Soviets?

1. ) It sound like the youngster was clueless.

2. ) It sounds like the kids who are described as bullies, go over board in making their point. They should have just pulled the kid aside and told him nicely that he shouldn't wear pink, it is a girls color and might get him in trouble. But no, they go over the top and yell at him and call him a homo...ect..

3. ) Two other older kids see this and want to somehow stand up to the 'bullies'. So they go out and buy a bunch of Pink shirts and wear them and hand them out. Of course the left wing media eats this up and now we have a national story.

Sounds to me like you're trying to defend these bullies because of your misguided attempts to associate anything and everything associated with or colored pink to be homosexual.

The tough kids make a mistake on how to handle the clueless kid. The weak kids make a mistake by rallying around a color that is traditionally female and associated with homosexuality. There is a lot going wrong here.

The worst of all is young men rallying around the Pink flag of femininity/homosexuality. This would have never happened when I was growing up. These kids would got the smack laid down upon them by all the young men in the school. Now they get praised for their actions. Sick!

Women can wear anything they want. Men do not wear Pink unless they are supporting breast cancer awareness. Pink is a girls color.

What's sick is your immaturity and how out-of-touch you really are. Rather than praise students who stood up to a bully that made the same misguided associations as you, you're willing to defend that bully because of the color of their shirt. Absurd.
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In the words of my old Sgt. Mgr, "I am a trained killer". If you don't think I'm tough enough to wear pink, that is your purgative. However, I am not a girl, so I'll just let you girls wear it.

Girls look good in Pink. :)
And you will let men wear pink. You wouldn't do a darn thing about it. . . other than blabber a bunch of antiquated mumbo jumbo.

... Or maybe you would be one of the 'bullies'?
 
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"The Grade 9 student arrived for the first day of school last Wednesday and was set upon by a group of six to 10 older students who mocked him, called him a homosexual for wearing pink and threatened to beat him up."

Makes me wonder. What if the boy was gay? Would this be grounds to mock and threaten to beat him up?
 
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