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"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. And it was so" (Genesis 1:29-30)

"Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything." (Genesis 9:1-3)
 
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christianmarine said:
Is hunting immoral? I like to ask questions of these sorts, as noone can come up with a clear answer.

As an outdoorsman, I enjoy the time I spend hunting. Not because I get to kill something, but simply because I can be alone with the wonderful scenery that the Lord made for us.

As others have also asked, why kill then ,unless one were humgry .... why use hunting as an excuse to enjoy the scenery , what is the point in adding any meaningless slaughter to the scenery if one is not hungry?

As to there being no answer to questions of morality ... that is really a very deep observation about something which few people can face the consequences of ... that all morality is relatve and subjective in this world... that man only exclaims his 'freedom' of will in order to hide from the terrible truth that we are trapped in unlovingness [sin. breaking God's eventual absolute law of love] ...

Thus the irony is that morality always turns out to be hypocrisy but one cannot even abandon it because then one is left with only the emptiness of not yet being acceptable to God in one's acts ...

Thus even the chosen few live in hope ... the many live in sin toward death and the second resurrection ...

Thus I would guess that the hunting and seeking solitude in scenery are all expressions of a deeper restlessness that as you say has no answer from men and no answer for now from God ...

One further point about your interesting post, why do you think God made the scenery for us ?
 
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stranger said:
As to there being no answer to questions of morality ... that is really a very deep observation about something which few people can face the consequences of ... that all morality is relatve and subjective in this world...

Most do not believe morality is subjective. Christians certainly do not. Objective truth is what the faith is all about. Situation ethics and moral relativism are anathema.
 
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christianmarine said:
Is hunting immoral?

No.

I quit hunting for several years, but I will be hunting this year. I'm looking forward to it. Where I live, on Maryland's Eastern Shore, everybody hunts.

What I'm not looking forward to is having to cull these large herds of deer, that are now overpopulated, diseased, starving, causing injury to drivers, and crop damage because of the people who said, "we can't hunt them, they're too cute".

That's a terrible waste that could have been avoided if not for the people who wanted to save the deer.

Ironic that the people who keep telling us how much more compassionate and morally superior they are because they don't hunt, while we do, are causing the worst suffering to the animals they claim to care about.

Liberalism in action.

As an outdoorsman, I enjoy the time I spend hunting. Not because I get to kill something, but simply because I can be alone with the wonderful scenery that the Lord made for us.

Come to Maryland. There is nothing like an early morning on the Bay.
 
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christianmarine said:
Is hunting immoral? I like to ask questions of these sorts, as noone can come up with a clear answer.

As an outdoorsman, I enjoy the time I spend hunting. Not because I get to kill something, but simply because I can be alone with the wonderful scenery that the Lord made for us.

I don't see how it would be immoral, there are hunters mentioned throughout the scripture. I would have a problem getting my buck fever fix then too. ;)
Aside from Esau, which I believe had other issues, ones like Nimrod and such are reflected well.
... That is another thing that puzzles me... why is nimrod an insult in today's terminology? :confused:
 
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I don't see a problem with hunting. As 12volt_man pointed out, sometimes it is necessary and even kinder to hunt certain animals. And this coming from a L-I-B-E-R-A-L.
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christianmarine said:
Is hunting immoral? I like to ask questions of these sorts, as noone can come up with a clear answer.

I can, it's not immoral. In my area, and much of the eastern US, it's actually a necessity because we have removed all the predators. If we do not control the numbers of deer they will simply destroy the forests.
 
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bmoynihan said:
Of course it is wrong. Animals have feelings and emotions, anybody that kills or assists in the killing of them must be void of these.

So what would you have us do? Let the deer breed until the forests are stripped bare and dieing?
 
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SisterGeoff said:
So what would you have us do? Let the deer breed until the forests are stripped bare and dieing?

Exactly. Sadly, we don't have enough predators to handle deer and other animal populations. If they go unchecked, they will eventually completely destroy the ecosystem they are in by preventing plant growth.

The end result is more animal deaths and less habitat. Unlike some animals which rip and injure animals until they die, hunters almost always take very careful shots. The last thing a hunter wants is a deer running around the forest injured.
 
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stray bullet said:
Exactly. Sadly, we don't have enough predators to handle deer and other animal populations. If they go unchecked, they will eventually completely destroy the ecosystem they are in by preventing plant growth.

The end result is more animal deaths and less habitat. Unlike some animals which rip and injure animals until they die, hunters almost always take very careful shots. The last thing a hunter wants is a deer running around the forest injured.

Why not reintroduce predators?

Is it really fun to kill a deer? Is the fun part watching life slowly drain out of their eyes? Or is it the blood? What's the turn on here?
 
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