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Good luck with what? Getting you to admit you're wrong? It'll never happen because you're too emotionally committed to your beliefs.Everyone can see that you have nothing of importance to offer. I hate to beat a dead horse so I think I will find someone with more knowledge to discuss the matter with. God Bless you and good luck.
What was made that day refers to...well..what was made that day.
Looks to me that you already have. If it says what was made that Day, that doesn't mean that it was made that Day, you say?
Jesus talked about the flood taking men away.Come on Dad and catch up. Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.
?? Because water covers it it must burn? I would have thought the burning was a judgment from God.Our Earth is a Rock covered in water. That's WHY it will be burned. ll Peter 3:10
Another poster already pointed out it was from the earth..the land actually. Please try not to blame your confused groanings on the 'trinity'.Apes don't need to be "created" since they came forth from the water already "created" by the Trinity.
He's basically saying that if the story is false, then a lot of people were duped into believing it.
Well... yeah. Isn't that always the case with false religions?
Except the religion you happen to follow, I bet?
The infamous Hitchslap comes to mind, where he says "All these religions make mutually exclusive claims . They can't all be right... At best only one is right. But they CAN all be wrong. Most likely, since they all make the same kind of claims, all of them are wrong."
That idea is far older then christianity OR judaism and several cultures around the world independently came up with that very basic and simple idea.
A basic human truth, if good, should be echoed everywhere.
Do you think you should love all of your neighbors as yourself?
Even today, after He reshaped human culture with things He said, His full teaching is still radical.
It can utterly remake your life into something so much better than you have known.
The problem is that you are trying to give your particular religion credit for that simple idea. While the idea is actually older then your religion. Clearly, your religion isn't a pre-requisite to come up with that idea.
"love"? No.
Every time a new religion, any religion, spreads throughout a culture, that culture is being reshaped.
Again not exclusive to your religion (or religion, full stop).
Try and see. I even did this with things like "love your neighbor (people around you) as yourself":
1) Test
2) repeat test
3) observations
4) alternative hypothesis
5) more testing
6) observations
7) conclusion -- I concluded, 'It works, consistently, to make my life better'
Good luck with what? Getting you to admit you're wrong? It'll never happen because you're too emotionally committed to your beliefs.
Not sure what you are trying to say here.
I can only tell you that in my immediate environment, ironically my actual literal neighbour in particular - a horrible person, there are plenty of people that I could not "love like I love myself", trust or even just respect.
It's in fact so bad that it's only a matter of time before I sell the house and move elsewhere.
My life definatly would not improve by "loving" that horrible person.
Nore do I consider it particularly wise to "turn the other cheeck" either.
I don't consider those things good ideas to live by.
Some people simply don't deserve my love, trust and respect.
I'll respect their rights as citizens and human beings - but it ends there.
↑What was made that day refers to...well..what was made that day.
Jesus talked about the flood taking men away.
Peter talked about it too
2Pe 2:5 -And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Here is the meaning from the greek↑
Thanks for posting the verse which clearly tell us that God spared NOT the old world (Grk-Cosmos). You believe He just washed it off. Don't you?
Yes I know...the flood destroyed the folks in the flood. Fire will purge the earth in the future. Nothing to do with anything you are trying to communicate here.
That verse says nothing about the third heaven needing to be made because of some event on earth actually. Gong.That is WHY God made the THIRD Heaven. 2Co 12:2 Anyone can read and understand that our Cosmos will be BURNED in the end. Can you?
Your whole case rests on the order of creation in Gen 1 being wrong. Think about it.False, since Adam, the first Human, was formed from the dust, on the 3rd Day by Jesus/Lord God.
Common ancestors? Paaleeeese.The common ancestors, which Jesus made from the dust of the ground at the beginning of the 6th Day, were temporary beings. Gen 2:19
Quote tags. Look it up.If so, I wouldn't do it the way you do. God Bless you dad.
Here is the meaning from the greek
Yes I know...the flood destroyed the folks in the flood. Fire will purge the earth in the future. Nothing to do with anything you are trying to communicate here.
- an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
- ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:
- the world, the universe
- the circle of the earth, the earth
- the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
- the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
- world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly
- the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ
- any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
- the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc)
- of believers only, John 1:29;
That verse says nothing about the third heaven needing to be made because of some event on earth actually. Gong.
Your whole case rests on the order of creation in Gen 1 being wrong. Think about it.
Common ancestors? Paaleeeese.
Quote tags. Look it up.
I don't blame you. The Greek obviously refers to people...and it was people that died in the flood. Your fables are based on nothing.Sorry, but I don't reply to people who are auditioning for a comedy gig. Especially those who aren't funny.
ah, yes, the 'that horrible person' neighbor. That's when I experimented with the "love your neighbor" in the situation where you *don't already like them*.... That's the hard test.
That's when the results get interesting. For some the results take a few days (if you see them often like out on sidewalk), for some it takes weeks. Some I might see only every month or two. But....what happened is they began acting quite differently, after I broke the ice by treating them with respect and a friendly greeting, to their real surprise. Often I notice, they might just be totally caught off guard by that first hello. It's not what they are used to from strangers.
LOL! Look at it another way: as Christians we are enjoined to treat other people as we wish to be treated ourselves. So if I meet another Christian who treats me badly, it is only my Christian duty to return the favor!It's a dumb test. Don't act like you understand the situation I was talking about, because you don't. How could you, from the little details I shared with you?
I'm not talking about people with whom you got off on the wrong foot or where the issue is that they "aren't nice" or whatever.
Having said that, let's not turn a single reference into a single example as some kind of case that represents all possible situations.
I was merely stating that I do not agree, at all, that it is smart or good to follow these dogmatic rules blindly all the time.
I consider them good ideas concerning how you treat people, especially people you meet for the first time.
But a social contract goes both ways.
I would never draw "first blood", in a matter if speaking. I just see no reason at all to give my love, respect and friendship to people who aren't willing to return the favor / simply don't deserve such treatment.
Nore do I consider it particularly wise either.
I don't blame you. The Greek obviously refers to people...and it was people that died in the flood. Your fables are based on nothing.
It's a dumb test. Don't act like you understand the situation I was talking about, because you don't. How could you, from the little details I shared with you?
I'm not talking about people with whom you got off on the wrong foot or where the issue is that they "aren't nice" or whatever.
Having said that, let's not turn a single reference into a single example as some kind of case that represents all possible situations.
I was merely stating that I do not agree, at all, that it is smart or good to follow these dogmatic rules blindly all the time.
I consider them good ideas concerning how you treat people, especially people you meet for the first time.
But a social contract goes both ways.
I would never draw "first blood", in a matter if speaking. I just see no reason at all to give my love, respect and friendship to people who aren't willing to return the favor / simply don't deserve such treatment.
Nore do I consider it particularly wise either.
Not sure what you are trying to say here.
I can only tell you that in my immediate environment, ironically my actual literal neighbour in particular - a horrible person, there are plenty of people that I could not "love like I love myself", trust or even just respect.
It's in fact so bad that it's only a matter of time before I sell the house and move elsewhere.
My life definatly would not improve by "loving" that horrible person.
Nore do I consider it particularly wise to "turn the other cheeck" either.
I don't consider those things good ideas to live by.
Some people simply don't deserve my love, trust and respect.
I'll respect their rights as citizens and human beings - but it ends there.
LOL! Look at it another way: as Christians we are enjoined to treat other people as we wish to be treated ourselves. So if I meet another Christian who treats me badly, it is only my Christian duty to return the favor!
Totally agree I can't be in your shoes to perfectly know a situation. Instead, I can remember of course my own situation, which was so difficult that I finally had to pray for help. It was not at all 'wrong foot' which frankly doesn't even slow me down. I fix that one without effort, typically.
This was to me something highly offensive, and I could not fully forgive it even after a few days.
But after I finally prayed, then everything was different on the very next day when I saw the neighbor. What had been uncomfortable avoidance became a neighborly friendliness. Just overnight, with no interaction until that next day. Like flipping a switch.
Sometimes I've pointed out that almost anyone can do the Golden Rule when it is easy, much of the time.
It's when it is hard that we need some kind of resource that is effective. Sometimes, in my experience, there is only one resource alone that is effective enough. Divine aid.
I think the Camp David Accords is an example of an amazing outcome (after 3 hot wars) of enemies coming together into friendship. The photos are simply surprising, with the former enemies shaking hands, and even partly embracing.
It's.....otherworldly.
Search up a photo of Camp David Accords
Carter is a Christian.
Well somethings are laws and these are immutable. Other things are ordinances which are culturally applied. And lastly there are principles which in general are good ideas but not always applicable or true.
Where turning the other cheek is an ordinance familiar to business agreements in that culture when a person wrongly accuses another of cheating them. Jesus is saying if you are innocent turn the other cheek. All onlookers in that culture and time would understand (and besides this would not have been getting slugged but rather slapped). A better example of a principle is like when Solomon said "A soft answer turns away wrath" (which is generally a good principle to live by but not always). Sometimes it won't, and the butt head you are dealing with would just slug you, interpreting your "soft answer" as weakness or fear.
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