Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[Aman777]

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Since we STILL live at Gen 1:27 on the Day of Salvation,
Dad:>>Gee I thought that was 6000 years ago?

Is God still creating mankind in Christ? IF so, we live at Gen 1:27 on the Day of Salvation according to Jesus:
2Co 6:2 (For He saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

God continues to "create" Adam (Mankind)
Dad:Gee I thought the guy died?

I bolded Mankind because the name Adam means "mankind" in Hebrew. FYI, God has NOT rested yet. He will not rest until Heaven is filled with ALL of it's host. Gen 2:1

in His Image or in Christ Spiritually.
Dad:>>Do we swim under the lake spiritually too?

Unworthy of comment.

The END of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven, is FUTURE to our time. God Bless you
Dad:>>You got one right, the future is the future.

I didn't say that. I said: The END of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven, is FUTURE to our time.

Your comedic reply shows the unsupportable nature of your weak argument. Everyone can see that when your foolishness is exposed, you resort to comedy, like Trump does. Birds of a feather? God Bless you

 

[dad]

Is God still creating mankind in Christ?

No. He created man in creation week and by chapter 2 it was all finished. Done. Over. When we are born again we are a new creation, but that has nothing to do with creation week itself. It has to do with the fall, and salvation, etc.

I bolded Mankind because the name Adam means "mankind" in Hebrew. FYI, God has NOT rested yet. He will not rest until Heaven is filled with ALL of it's host. Gen 2:1

When Adam was created he was all there was of man kind. So?

The END of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven, is FUTURE to our time.

No. People were caught up to the third heaven in Paul's day. Sounds like it is already around. Nothing to do with the day God created man and woman.

... you resort to comedy, like Trump does. Birds of a feather? God Bless you

Perhaps the antichrist polices and leader of the former dark regime in the US better suited your sensibilities? I any case all I can say is good riddance to bad rubbish. As for comedy, even the bible uses it. One example is Jesus telling the Pharisees that they travel far and wide to convert someone, and in the end they only get a little hellion out of the deal anyhow, like them.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[Aman777]

No. He created man in creation week and by chapter 2 it was all finished. Done. Over. When we are born again we are a new creation, but that has nothing to do with creation week itself. It has to do with the fall, and salvation, etc.

Can you tell us WHEN in the past mankind had dominion or rule over "every living thing that moves on the Earth" as Gen 1:28 states? Remember to include mosquitoes, viruses and angels. You cannot but go ahead and try.

Can you tell us WHEN in the past this event took place?

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

You cannot because your understanding of Genesis does not agree with what is actually written. The only answer is that the present 6th Day continues on this Day of Salvation, according to Jesus. God Bless you

2Co 6:2 (For He saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

 

[dad]

Can you tell us WHEN in the past mankind had dominion or rule over "every living thing that moves on the Earth" as Gen 1:28 states? Remember to include mosquitoes, viruses and angels. You cannot but go ahead and try.

Can you tell us WHEN in the past this event took place?

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

You cannot because your understanding of Genesis does not agree with what is actually written. The only answer is that the present 6th Day continues on this Day of Salvation, according to Jesus. God Bless you

2Co 6:2 (For He saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

Before the fall.

 

[Aman777]

Before the fall.

False, since Isaiah 11 shows the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Gen 1:30 of all living creatures becoming vegetarians AND it happens AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth, a future event:

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of His loins, and faithfulness the girdle of His reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Amen?

 

[dad]

False, since Isaiah 11 shows the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Gen 1:30 of all living creatures becoming vegetarians AND it happens AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth, a future event:

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of His loins, and faithfulness the girdle of His reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Amen?

The coming kingdom of God and the realities then have no bearing on creation week. Pretty lame.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
False, since Isaiah 11 shows the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Gen 1:30 of all living creatures becoming vegetarians AND it happens AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth, a future event:

The coming kingdom of God and the realities then have no bearing on creation week. Pretty lame.

Sure it does since Gen 1:30 is prophecy of events at the end of the present 6th Day/Age. God has but 7 Days/Ages and the 7th is ETERNITY. God Bless you

 

[dad]

Aman777 said: ↑
False, since Isaiah 11 shows the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Gen 1:30 of all living creatures becoming vegetarians AND it happens AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth, a future event:

Yes, it does, and many feel it was also that way before the fall. Who knows? Not you. Speak accordingly.

Sure it does since Gen 1:30 is prophecy of events at the end of the present 6th Day/Age.

It was FINISHED by the first verse in the next chapter actually. You are conflating periods to inflate your pwt theories.

God has but 7 Days/Ages and the 7th is ETERNITY. God Bless you

Chapter and verse?

 

[Aman777]

Yes, it does, and many feel it was also that way before the fall. Who knows? Not you. Speak accordingly.

I do know since mankind has NEVER had dominion over EVERY living creature YET as Gen 1:28 states. Gen 1:30 happens AFTER that dominion is given by Christ during his millennial reign.

*** It was FINISHED by the first verse in the next chapter actually. You are conflating periods to inflate your pwt theories.

One of my favorite verses since it shows that God's work is FINISHED, which in Hebrew means Brought to Perfection. Genesis 2:1 ALSO shows that ALL the "host" of heaven is safely in Heaven at the end of the present 6th Day. The last Christian to be saved is among the "host" at the beginning of the 7th Day.

*** Chapter and verse?

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and ALL the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from ALL His work which He had made.

God's work is creating and on the 7th Day God rests or CEASES to Create because His perfect Heaven has been finished or made perfect Eternally. God Bless you
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[dad]

I do know since mankind has NEVER had dominion over EVERY living creature YET as Gen 1:28 states. Gen 1:30 happens AFTER that dominion is given by Christ during his millennial reign.

Chapter and verse?

One of my favorite verses since it shows that God's work is FINISHED, which in Hebrew means Brought to Perfection. Genesis 2:1 ALSO shows that ALL the "host" of heaven is safely in Heaven at the end of the present 6th Day. The last Christian to be saved is among the "host" at the beginning of the 7th Day.

The host of heaven often refers to stars and such. They were finished. Nothing to do with people later to be saved.

God's work is creating and on the 7th Day God rests or CEASES to Create because His perfect Heaven has been finished or made perfect Eternally. God Bless you
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Regardless of what you want to call the period after His kingdom comes to earth, the creation was finished the day after man was created.

 

[Aman777]

Regardless of what you want to call the period after His kingdom comes to earth, the creation was finished the day after man was created.

Since God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image or In Christ Spiritually, we are STILL at Gen 1:27 and we will stay here on this Day of Salvation until the last sinner to be saved, is saved. Then, we will advance to the PROPHECY of Genesis 1:28-31 at the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven. The entire History of God's 7 Day creation is found in the first 34 verses of Genesis IF you have the proper interpretation which you don't seem to have.

BTW, Your idea that Heaven is coming down to the Earth which crucified Jesus, is ridiculous. It's the New Heaven and New Earth of Rev 21:1 which will replace the present Earth which will burn and its elements will be melted with fervent heat. 2Pet 3:10

 

[dad]

Since God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image or In Christ Spiritually, we are STILL at Gen 1:27 and we will stay here on this Day of Salvation until the last sinner to be saved, is saved.

Just because Adam was all of mankind once does not mean we limit the definition of what mankind is to Adam, when there are billions of us and he is loooong dead.

Then, we will advance to the PROPHECY of Genesis 1:28-31 at the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven.

It is not prophesy, it was creation and was declared finished.

The entire History of God's 7 Day creation is found in the first 34 verses of Genesis IF you have the proper interpretation which you don't seem to have.

Read what you like into the creation history. You should be aware that in so doing you end up believing Adam was billions of years old and living under a lake though!

BTW, Your idea that Heaven is coming down to the Earth which crucified Jesus, is ridiculous.

Heaven is where God is and He is coming here along with our golden city. Right here. Forever.

It's the New Heaven and New Earth of Rev 21:1 which will replace the present Earth which will burn and its elements will be melted with fervent heat. 2Pet 3:10

Yes, the world will burn. However the foundations of the earth are apparently eternal. So maybe it is just the surface that burns.

 

[Aman777]

Just because Adam was all of mankind once does not mean we limit the definition of what mankind is to Adam, when there are billions of us and he is loooong dead.
It is not prophesy, it was creation and was declared finished.

Read what you like into the creation history. You should be aware that in so doing you end up believing Adam was billions of years old and living under a lake though!
Heaven is where God is and He is coming here along with our golden city. Right here. Forever.

Yes, the world will burn. However the foundations of the earth are apparently eternal. So maybe it is just the surface that burns.

Since your view of the creation is so limited, I want to show you where our Universe is in the Multiverse. Remember that God made an enormous amount of air, dust and water in the beginning of the Multiverse. Gen 1:1 Adam's small (miles wide) firmament or the FIRST Heaven, was made on the 2nd Day Gen 1:8 in the midst of water. Gen 1:6-8

On the 3rd Day, Lord God made other Heavens/Universes. Gen 2:4 The big bang of our world was the beginning of our Universe, within the dust God made in the beginning. The Lord expanded/exploded some of the air, dust and water inside the dust/ground of the Multiverse. Our Universe was destined for total destruction and the smoke of their (unbelievers) torment will go up forever, Rev 14:11 trapped and buried in the dust/ground of the Multiverse. Only the doomed will exist inside our Universe forever. Jesus:>>Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

 

[dad]

Since your view of the creation is so limited, I want to show you where our Universe is in the Multiverse. Remember that God made an enormous amount of air, dust and water in the beginning of the Multiverse. Gen 1:1 Adam's small (miles wide) firmament or the FIRST Heaven, was made on the 2nd Day Gen 1:8 in the midst of water. Gen 1:6-8

On the 3rd Day, Lord God made other Heavens/Universes. Gen 2:4 The big bang of our world was the beginning of our Universe, within the dust God made in the beginning. The Lord expanded/exploded some of the air, dust and water inside the dust/ground of the Multiverse. Our Universe was destined for total destruction and the smoke of their (unbelievers) torment will go up forever, Rev 14:11 trapped and buried in the dust/ground of the Multiverse. Only the doomed will exist inside our Universe forever. Jesus:>>Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Not sure why you call creation a multiverse.gen 1 doesn't say anything about a small world. Adam was created on day 6. The world was fine then. This world.

 

[Aman777]

Not sure why you call creation a multiverse.

Call it what you wish. It's the perfect heaven and it consists of an enormous quantity of air, dust, and water. It's where Jesus has gone to prepare a place for us.

*** gen 1 doesn't say anything about a small world.

Sure it does. It speaks of Adam's Earth which was small when compared to the present world. It had only 4 Rivers and they all came from the same source, the Garden of Eden, which means the Garden was the highest point on Adam's Earth which was ONLY 15 cubits (22.5 feet) high on its tallest mountains. The flood prevailed or covered the mountains when it reached that depth. Gen 7:20

*** Adam was created on day 6. The world was fine then. This world.

Adam was created by the Trinity (God) Spiritually on the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 & Gen 5:1-2 Adam was formed of the dust of the ground BEFORE the beginning of our cosmos, by Lord God/Jesus and lived until some 12,000 years ago. Since Adam was made BEFORE the big bang of our Cosmos, he was Billions of years old in man's time. He lived for 3 of God's Days plus 930 years, in man's time. Gen 5:5 Like all men, Adam had a choice to believe God or NOT. After Cain killed Abel, Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually in Christ by the AGREEMENT of the Trinity, because of their Faith in Jesus. God Bless you

 

[dad]

Call it what you wish. It's the perfect heaven and it consists of an enormous quantity of air, dust, and water. It's where Jesus has gone to prepare a place for us.

Except you made that up.

Sure it does. It speaks of Adam's Earth which was small when compared to the present world. It had only 4 Rivers and they all came from the same source, the Garden of Eden, which means the Garden was the highest point on Adam's Earth which was ONLY 15 cubits (22.5 feet) high on its tallest mountains. The flood prevailed or covered the mountains when it reached that depth. Gen 7:20

The chapter dealt with the rivers in or near the garden Adam was placed in. Not with every river or lake sea on earth. We should try not to be ignorantly shortsighted and invent stories I would think.

Adam was created by the Trinity (God) Spiritually on the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 & Gen 5:1-2 Adam was formed of the dust of the ground BEFORE the beginning of our cosmos, by Lord God/Jesus and lived until some 12,000 years ago.

Seems to me that the Holy Spirit is God and Jesus, and the Father. That doesn't mean that one may not do something unique does it? John clarifies that it was Jesus that made all things. One suspects that He played a chief role in that operation.

Since Adam was made BEFORE the big bang of our Cosmos,

There was no such thing, that is an invention of modern same state past belief based godless so called scientific speculation and theory and belief. The bible tells us of creation, not some weird bang after earth was created...or before.

he was Billions of years old in man's time.

I can see you are desperate to try and include the beliefs and stories of science at any cost..including rewriting the bible. Get over it. Chose on or the other. This day if ye will. How long halt ye between two masters?

He lived for 3 of God's Days plus 930 years, in man's time.

Taking artistic licence with Adam's age, creation week, or the age of the earth to be able to fit them into your stories is not a sexy endeavor.

Gen 5:5 Like all men, Adam had a choice to believe God or NOT. After Cain killed Abel, Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually in Christ by the AGREEMENT of the Trinity, because of their Faith in Jesus. God Bless you

Maybe. However since the bible doesn't tell us that Adam was 'born again' because of some evil act a son did, one wonders why you pretend your story has some authority to it.

 

[Aman777]

Except you made that up.

The chapter dealt with the rivers in or near the garden Adam was placed in. Not with every river or lake sea on earth. We should try not to be ignorantly shortsighted and invent stories I would think.

Did you miss the Fact that the Euphrates River was on Adam's Earth AND the present Earth? Gen 2:14 Of course you did. Now, it's your time to show us where the River, which became the Euphrates, was located on Planet Earth . You will fail but go ahead and try to identify the River the Euphrates came from.

*** Seems to me that the Holy Spirit is God and Jesus, and the Father. That doesn't mean that one may not do something unique does it? John clarifies that it was Jesus that made all things. One suspects that He played a chief role in that operation.

Genesis chapter One uses the word "God" exclusively, to show that the Creation was accomplished by the Trinity. At Gen 2:4-Revelation, Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) is shown as physically making the "common ancestors" with His own Hands. If you don't know the difference between His (Jesus) kinds and Their (Trinity) kinds, you should ask the Lord to give you understanding. A good example is that EVERY creature made by the Hands of Jesus is TEMPORARY, just like Humans. Gen 2:7

*** There was no such thing, that is an invention of modern same state past belief based godless so called scientific speculation and theory and belief. The bible tells us of creation, not some weird bang after earth was created...or before.

Wrong and an uneducated opinion. Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was made the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8 Other Heavens (plural) were made by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 IOW, the big bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day. Can you read and refute what God told us? Of course not.

*** I can see you are desperate to try and include the beliefs and stories of science at any cost..including rewriting the bible. Get over it. Chose on or the other. This day if ye will. How long halt ye between two masters?

As long as I have on Earth, I will seek to show that God's Truth in Genesis IS also the SAME Truth which has been discovered by Science and History. My "master" is the Truth Jhn 14:6 and His name is Jesus Christ. IF God's Holy Word IS the Truth then it MUST agree with the factual discoveries of mankind.

*** Taking artistic licence with Adam's age, creation week, or the age of the earth to be able to fit them into your stories is not a sexy endeavor.

Maybe. However since the bible doesn't tell us that Adam was 'born again' because of some evil act a son did, one wonders why you pretend your story has some authority to it.

Your twisted understanding is causing you to make ridiculous statements. Adam and Eve were BOTH "created in God's image" or born again Spiritually in Christ at the same time on the present 6th Day. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2 What you don't like, is that it doesn't fit your pet interpretation. My point in showing that it was AFTER Cain killed Abel is to show that a "FALLEN" Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually and Eternally by the Trinity (God) and will be in Heaven. They lived for 930 years Gen 5:5 AFTER they were born again, on the 1st Earth, BEFORE they joined Jesus in the 3rd Heaven. God Bless you

 

[dad]

Did you miss the Fact that the Euphrates River was on Adam's Earth AND the present Earth? Gen 2:14 Of course you did. Now, it's your time to show us where the River, which became the Euphrates, was located on Planet Earth . You will fail but go ahead and try to identify the River the Euphrates came from.

No need to guess where the garden of eden was. Yes, it was on earth. Hope you get that much. Since a lot of continental movement has taken place, it would be hard to pinpoint ancient coordinates now. Yes Jesus created all things...you agree..yes or no? I dont really care about your preaching about man created some other day than gen 1 says, or your pretendind adam was billions of years old..etc.

 

[Aman777]

No need to guess where the garden of eden was. Yes, it was on earth. Hope you get that much. Since a lot of continental movement has taken place, it would be hard to pinpoint ancient coordinates now. Yes Jesus created all things...you agree..yes or no? I dont really care about your preaching about man created some other day than gen 1 says, or your pretendind adam was billions of years old..etc.

IOW, don't confuse you with the Biblical facts since you are comfortable with your delusions? FYI, I didn't write Genesis and you don't understand it. I do. God Bless you

 

[dad]

IOW, don't confuse you with the Biblical facts since you are comfortable with your delusions? FYI, I didn't write Genesis and you don't understand it. I do. God Bless you

Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday, and am familiar with the bible. It is no delusion to think the garden and Adam and Eve were on this planet. Nor is it delusion to think Jesus created it all. Your bizarre claims of Noah arriving on Planet earth after the flood, Adam living billions of years, and man having ape ancestors and the rest of your truly ridiculous bible opposing fables are exposed as a fraud.