fresh said:being rid of the Catholic rubbish would be a huge dent in sin.
Mary lived a sinless life.
livingproofGM said:Mary was immaculately concieved to bear the prefect being, Jesus. She is the new Ark of the covenant seen in Revelation. I don't think (personally) God would chose a sinful woman to bear His perfect Son.
AcaciaGrove said:Treadstarter is wrong\
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god"
Romans 3:23
the bible makes it pretty black and white
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god"
Romans 3:23
AcaciaGrove said:Treadstarter is wrong\
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god"
Romans 3:23
the bible makes it pretty black and white
depthdeception said:This verse must be read in light of the context of the third chapter of Romans (and actually in light of the over-arching context of Romans itself). Paul is talking about righteousness through the law vs. righteousness through Christ. He begins by describing the life of one attempting to please God through legalistic righteousness (Romans 3:9-19). But Paul concludes that the end result is that we only condemn ourselves further, for we show our sinfulness to be truly sinful. Then, in 20ff, Paul describes the life lived by faith and the righteousness that comes through Christ. Immediately, he writes vs. 23, not to show that the life of the Christian is to be one of continual sin and failure, but rather to show that the righteousness which the believer enjoys is based upon Christ's grace, not upon the best legalistic efforts of the person trying to please God.
As anyone can plainly see, to use 3:23 as "proof" that Paul believed that Christians will necessarily continue to sin throughout their lifetimes is eisigesis--completely ignoring the context of Paul's meaning and message.
Now I am not saying, conversely, that this text is proof for the possibility of the Christian living a life without sin. Rather, I am only pointing out that it cannot be utilized either way.
Mary didn't die on the cross for our sins. Only by the spilling of Christ's blood were we saved. Not by Mary's.flameingcrouton said:So if marry was sinnless, why do we need christ? we have a perfect lamb right there in marry if she was sinnless.
livingproofGM said:Mary didn't die on the cross for our sins. Only by the spilling of Christ's blood were we saved. Not by Mary's.
flameingcrouton said:that is exactly my question, why couldnt marry get up on the cross?
jtbdad said:I don't normally get involved in Mary threads. But this is a pretty good question, especially if you extend it.
koban4max said:after baptising, it means you accept jesus as your savior....and
GOd, holy spirit, and j.c as trinity....i think i'm going off with my words.
Comanch09 said:At the request of another member, I will start a thread on this topic. I stated that human's are capable of being sinless in another thread.
Anyway here is my point. After Baptism, I feel that a human has the full capability of living sinless, contrary to what many other Christians believe. Does it mean it happen's much, probably not. But, a person has the full capability of being sinless after Baptism. Anyone who want's to add anything, feel free.
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