Human evolution

[Brightmoon]

This is how gorillas and chimps are related to humans . As you see humans and chimps split after gorillas did . Gorillas are distinct enough so that they have their own lineage but humans and chimps are not and this is still under investigation. This is usually put as- do chimps belong in genus Homo. The issue of gorillas and chimps being in family Hominidae with humans and protohumans is settled ( despite creationist denial)

I’m moving this here as it was off topic in the other thread

 

[Brightmoon]

there are about 25 protohuman species in several different genera . Even Neanderthals and denisovans weren’t us . Prehistoric could mean Neanderthals, Denisovans and “ the Hobbits” ( H floresiensis) from 50,000 years ago. You’ll have get more specific as the recent ones certainly were human even if they weren’t Homo sapiens . ( date corrected)

 

[Sanoy]

Is "Pan", the purple tree, the section for chimps in the chart?

 

[Job 33:6]

Is "Pan", the purple tree, the section for chimps in the chart?

Yes, it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee

 

[Job 33:6]

In regards to taxonomy, its actually useful looking at wikipedia, and just going to the table on the right.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Suborder: Haplorhini
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Subtribe: Oken, 1816

Chimpanzees[1]
Temporal range: Middle Pliocene – present


It gives you their taxonomic classification and their temporal range (where the fossils are). Which is useful for quick searches.

 

[Brightmoon]

As usual this is only a screenshot as my phone won’t let me link
It’s an Overview of primate evolution from PNAS. You can read the article online.

 

[Brightmoon]

The top images from left to right - living Primates

1lemurs and their close relatives
2lorises and their close relatives
3old world monkeys ,non human apes and humans
4New world monkeys
5Tarsiers and their close relatives
The other lineages are extinct

From the same PNAS article

 

[Ophiolite]

Here is the direct link to the paper noted by Brightmoon in posts #6 & #7.
New Perspectives on Anthropoid Origins.

 

[Brightmoon]

Thanks

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

This is cool stuff.

 

[juvenissun]

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As usual this is only a screenshot as my phone won’t let me link
It’s an Overview of primate evolution from PNAS. You can read the article online.

What is "adaptive shift"?
The "shift" sounds fishy. A few shifts can change a cat to a tiger. Is this hypothesis or model invented to explain the unexplainable?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Here we go again. Having to listen to tales of "missing" common ancestors in order to link separate species into one family.

Now one might buy the "missing" common ancestor spiel if every single place on every single tree where species are claimed to have split a "missing" common ancestor wasn't invoked.

But really now, the "missing" ancestor story is getting quite old and just needs to be let peacefully die away.....

 

[Ophiolite]

What is "adaptive shift"?
The "shift" sounds fishy. A few shifts can change a cat to a tiger. Is this hypothesis or model invented to explain the unexplainable?

Sorry, this sort of basic science is above your pay grade. Stick to fantasty.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

What is "adaptive shift"?
The "shift" sounds fishy. A few shifts can change a cat to a tiger. Is this hypothesis or model invented to explain the unexplainable?

It's one of those "magic words" evolutionists are always in need of since only fake science uses them....

http://www.icr.org/article/unmasking-evolutions-magic-words/

Now we can add "adaptive shift" to the long, long list of magic words used by evolutionists which in reality say nothing.....

 

[Ophiolite]

Now we can add "adaptive shift" to the long, long list of magic words used by evolutionists which in reality say nothing.....

I readily concede that you are the expert in saying nothing (of value).

 

[pitabread]

It's one of those "magic words" evolutionists are always in need of since only fake science uses them....

If this is the type of thing you need to criticize science for, you're really grasping at straws now...

 

[Brightmoon]

Creationists! This is a challenge. Refute this !

 

[Aman777]

This is how gorillas and chimps are related to humans . As you see humans and chimps split after gorillas did . Gorillas are distinct enough so that they have their own lineage but humans and chimps are not and this is still under investigation. This is usually put as- do chimps belong in genus Homo. The issue of gorillas and chimps being in family Hominidae with humans and protohumans is settled ( despite creationist denial)

Not so, since Humans were made BEFORE any other living creature. Gen 2:7 You have confused Humans (descendants of Adam) with the sons of God (prehistoric people). This is untrue historically since the FIRST modern Human traits appeared only 11k years ago, in man's time. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

 

[Brightmoon]

Aman humans have been around for about 150,000 years and in more than one species .

 

[Aman777]

Aman humans have been around for about 150,000 years and in more than one species .

Not so. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were around 150k years ago but there were NO Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Earth. The Ark arrived 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat and brought Adam's descendants (Humans) to Earth. We did not evolve from Apes but we inherited their DNA because Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Genesis 6:4