Human evolution

[Aman777]

Besides:

The first musical instruments date to about 40 kya.
SW Asian agriculture does date to about 11 kya.

Writing doesn't show until about 5000 years later. (Proto-writing about 2000 years later.)

Smelting didn't start for at least 2000 years after this supposed arrival.

Amen, IF we are speaking of the history of the present Earth. Smelting of iron and brass happened on Adam's Earth much sooner with Cain's descendants:

Gen 4:22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

Similar activities began in the Americas (though I think not smelting) at completely different timescales with no evidence of exchange.

Indians in America were also Human after the Ark arrived since the Lord scattered Noah's descendants all over the face of the Earth from Babel. Gen 11:9 The Indians were unaware that their intelligence was about to change to Human intelligence.

How were these supposed first (modern) humans from the "ark" different physically or mentally from the others who seem to have survived the global flood that kill everything? (knowing how to farm, or write, is not a mental difference)

Noah came from Adam's firmament/Heaven which was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 He came to our Earth and brought Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, Genesis 3:22 to our planet of the common ancestor of Apes. Humans (Adam's descendants) did NOT evolve from Apes but our genetics were contaminated by them.

We looked exactly like prehistoric people (sons of God) and we also could and did produce children with each other. Genesis 6:4 It's because Adam sinned and lost his likeness like Jesus and was changed into flesh, in the likeness of the sons of God.

 

[DogmaHunter]

How were these supposed first (modern) humans from the "ark" different physically or mentally from the others who seem to have survived the global flood that kill everything? (knowing how to farm, or write, is not a mental difference)

He believes that that flood happened on another planet and that the ark was a spaceship.




(i know)

 

[Aman777]

don’t put words in my mouth.

God created this universe not you creationists. Y’all seem to forget that . Scientists only report what’s there. They don’t make up fantasies because they don’t have accept holy book inaccuracies as if they have to be true (or else). That’s YOUR problem!

What problem? I'm alive forevermore thanks to Jesus. My Father owns everything and He is about to give it to me. Only those who reject His Holy Word have problems since they are all subject to death, misery and eternal suffering. My problems are small compared to atheists, agnostics and phonies.

 

[Aman777]

He believes that that flood happened on another planet and that the ark was a spaceship.

False. The flood happened in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago when Adam's firmament sank releasing Humanity into this world of the common ancestor of Apes. I have NEVER claimed the Ark was a spaceship. Did you just look at the image which Niccto made showing his Atheist viewpoint, which is like your's? Of course you did. Learn to read and comprehend and your won't post such mistaken views.

 

[Colter]

What problem? I'm alive forevermore thanks to Jesus. My Father owns everything and He is about to give it to me. Only those who reject His Holy Word have problems since they are all subject to death, misery and eternal suffering. My problems are small compared to atheists, agnostics and phonies.

Hell was invented to scare men into religion when religion didn't have anything better. Jesus portrayed a compelling vision of God as a loving Father with an eternal plan. That plan is being carried out in the creative process of evolution.

Notice that Atheist aren't scared anymore of the fake news about hell.

 

[Aman777]

Hell was invented to scare men into religion when religion didn't have anything better.

I agree since religion is nothing but trying to find God. Christianity is God in you Spiritually, Eternally. Hell is when one is left in outer darkness, death and misery, alone with self, forever.

Jesus portrayed a compelling vision of God as a loving Father with an eternal plan. That plan is being carried out in the creative process of evolution.

Amen. Some 200 years ago, some people who rejected Genesis, made up the false ToE. Today, some people in arrogance and blasphemy actually believe that they know more than God. Evolution is nothing more than descent with modifications within His and Their kinds. Force teaching it as scientific fact, and calling Jesus a myth, is the evil which will not go unpunished.

Notice that Atheist aren't scared anymore of the fake news about hell.

I can't help it if they aren't smart enough to recognize the Truth when they hear it.

 

[pitabread]

Only those who reject His Holy Word have problems since they are all subject to death, misery and eternal suffering.

Do you think that coercion is a good way to get converts?

 

[DogmaHunter]

False. The flood happened in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago when Adam's firmament sank releasing Humanity into this world of the common ancestor of Apes. I have NEVER claimed the Ark was a spaceship. Did you just look at the image which Niccto made showing his Atheist viewpoint, which is like your's? Of course you did. Learn to read and comprehend and your won't post such mistaken views.

If Adam didn't live on this planet and the flood washed away Adam's world, then how could that flood have been on this planet?

 

[Aman777]

Do you think that coercion is a good way to get converts?

What coercion? God gave you the ability to choose between good and evil. Now, you have the free choice to choose where you will be forever. God respects your choice and allows you to be forever in darkness or in His Light. Perfect justice demands that you have this free choice and God doesn't force anyone to do anything. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

If Adam didn't live on this planet and the flood washed away Adam's world, then how could that flood have been on this planet?

Adam lived on a self sufficient firmament/Heaven which was very small, in comparison to our world. It was only 22.5 feet in elevation on top of it's highest mountain. The windows on top of the firmament were opened and it rained for 40 days and nights and the firmament sank, totally destroying Adam's Earth and releasing the Ark into Lake Van, Turkey. That's the actual story told in Scripture no matter what you've heard.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Adam lived on a self sufficient firmament/Heaven which was very small

What is that and where was it?

It was only 22.5 feet in elevation on top of it's highest mountain.

A mountain is a geological feature on a planet.

The windows on top of the firmament were opened

Windows?

and it rained for 40 days and nights and the firmament sank, totally destroying Adam's Earth

Adam's earth? As in, not the earth we walk on? As in some other earth? Aka, some other planet?

and releasing the Ark into Lake Van, Turkey. That's the actual story told in Scripture no matter what you've heard.

Funny how you seem to be the only one who got it right then.

 

[Aman777]

What is that and where was it?

It was like a very large submarine since it protected Adam's Earth from the water which totally surrounded it in the multiverse. The firmament, which God called Heaven, was also transportable to anywhere in the multiverse since it was totally self sufficient.

A mountain is a geological feature on a planet.

It was also a geological feature on Adam's Earth, which was not a planet, but instead, water with dry ground of top of it. Gen 1:9 The Garden was the highest point on Adam's Earth since it is where the ONE River came from before it left the Garden and split into four heads. Gen 2:10 In comparison the entire Earth of Adam had only 4 Rivers and Texas has thousands.

Windows?

Sure: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

Adam's earth? As in, not the earth we walk on? As in some other earth? Aka, some other planet?

Another Heaven within the water of our multiverse. It was made the 2nd Day Gen 1:6-8 while our 2nd Heaven/Universe was made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4

Funny how you seem to be the only one who got it right then.

Me, the Bible and God. We're one. God Bless you

 

[Brightmoon]

Unbelievable! Aman ,honestly I can’t make heads or tails out of your posts ! I have no idea what you’re talking about. There’s no geological or archeological evidence to support this at all.

 

[DogmaHunter]

It was like a very large submarine since it protected Adam's Earth from the water which totally surrounded it in the multiverse. The firmament, which God called Heaven, was also transportable to anywhere in the multiverse since it was totally self sufficient.

Ok, I stand corrected.

It wasn't a spaceship.

It was a "space-sea-sub-marine-ship" because, apparantly, what is now empty space used to be filled with water or something?


I'm making jokes, because I have no idea how to respond to such fantastical, magical thinking.

It's..... wauw. I have no words.

 

[Aman777]

Ok, I stand corrected.

It wasn't a spaceship.

It was a "space-sea-sub-marine-ship" because, apparantly, what is now empty space used to be filled with water or something?


I'm making jokes, because I have no idea how to respond to such fantastical, magical thinking.

It's..... wauw. I have no words.

Aman777 said: ↑
It was like a very large submarine since it protected Adam's Earth from the water which totally surrounded it in the multiverse. The firmament, which God called Heaven, was also transportable to anywhere in the multiverse since it was totally self sufficient.

The multiverse contains 3 Heavens as God called Adam's firmament.

The first Heaven/firmament was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6
The second Heaven is our Universe and it will be burned. 2 Peter 3:10
The third Heaven of 2 Corinthians 12:2 is where Christians live after our Universe is burned. It's also called the New Heaven and New Earth in Revelation 21:1.

Adam's firmament was the solid boundary of his entire world which was placed in the midst of the water and was totally surrounded by the water of the multiverse. Genesis 1:6-8 It was made by God the Trinity on the 2nd Day.

Our firmament/cosmos is surrounded by the cosmic microwave background radiation, NOT water. The CMBR is surrounded by the "ground without form" or dust in the multiverse, ready for burning and burial of the remnants of our world. Our Cosmos was NOT made by God the Trinity, but temporarily by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4

The third Heaven is the object of the 7 Day/Age of creation and it is in the Air/Heaven and will be forever. It is NOT surrounded by anything, not water, nor dust, but is where Christians will spend Eternity with Jesus. He is now physically preparing a place for us there.

Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

[Aman777]

Unbelievable! Aman ,honestly I can’t make heads or tails out of your posts ! I have no idea what you’re talking about. There’s no geological or archeological evidence to support this at all.

Since I support my views with the agreement of Scripture, science and history, please be more precise and tell us why you have a problem with either of those views. I am more than happy to explain in whatever terms you choose.

 

[mindlight]

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This is how gorillas and chimps are related to humans . As you see humans and chimps split after gorillas did . Gorillas are distinct enough so that they have their own lineage but humans and chimps are not and this is still under investigation. This is usually put as- do chimps belong in genus Homo. The issue of gorillas and chimps being in family Hominidae with humans and protohumans is settled ( despite creationist denial)

I’m moving this here as it was off topic in the other thread

Apparently we share Neanderthal DNA so they are probably human. Gods design allows for considerable flexibility as a walk down Oxford Street demonstrates. There is no DNA for Homo Erectus so whatever we say is a guess. The difference between chimps and humans makes all the difference. The size of our brains being they key difference. It is the difference between a real capacity for language, thought and worship and the absence of these. It is the difference between Cathedrals and trees, sticks and nuclear missiles, grunts and Shakespeare.

 

[pitabread]

What coercion?

What you just said: Only those who reject His Holy Word have problems since they are all subject to death, misery and eternal suffering.

Threatening people with dire consequences unless they adopt a particular view is a form of coercion.

Do you think coercion is a good way of getting converts?

 

[Aman777]

What you just said: Only those who reject His Holy Word have problems since they are all subject to death, misery and eternal suffering.

Threatening people with dire consequences unless they adopt a particular view is a form of coercion.

Do you think coercion is a good way of getting converts?

You don't seem to know the difference between a warning and a coercion. Remember that God is also the Spirit of Truth and He MUST always do that which is perfect IF He is to have a perfect Heaven. Don't be so paranoid in your thinking. Everything's gonna be alright in the end for those who love God. Amen?

 

[Brightmoon]

Apparently we share Neanderthal DNA so they are probably human. Gods design allows for considerable flexibility as a walk down Oxford Street demonstrates. There is no DNA for Homo Erectus so whatever we say is a guess. The difference between chimps and humans makes all the difference. The size of our brains being they key difference. It is the difference between a real capacity for language, thought and worship and the absence of these. It is the difference between Cathedrals and trees, sticks and nuclear missiles, grunts and Shakespeare.

. So you reject a gorilla that use sign language and who told mr Rogers that she loved him . You pretend that chimps don’t make Spears and hunt with them . The real difference between the other apes and humans is that we’ll cooperate. They haven’t quite figured that out.